posted 01-10- 03:17 AM               

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posted 01-10- 07:06 PM               

Misery loves company.

TS

posted 01-10- 09:28 PM               

Seriously, though, can you email me a max file of the fuselage, texture mapped, and the applicable texture? I'll probably be just as perplexed, but you never know...

Here's my email address...

posted 01-10- 09:35 PM               

If you need Stubb's tools, you can get them here...
http://home.adelphia.net/~woodpanel/stubb.zip

If you try this, please bear in mind that Stubb's OBJ2LOD will only deal with triangles, so make sure you export as triangles in the Max2Obj dialogue.

posted 01-11- 01:41 AM               

I'm too burned out on this to go looking through .lod files. The file's in your mailbox.

posted 01-11- 06:17 AM               

I got your file and managed to get it textured OK. Basically there was a flaw with the way the polygons/triangles were constructed for some reason. All I had to do was export it as OBJ with texture co-ordinates turned off and re-import it also with texture verts truned off. Worked in OPS and SDOE after that. Anyway I have mailed a reply with more details and some files.

posted 01-11- 09:54 AM               

I goofed on the email address, by the way. Looks like Bryan saved the day, though. Anyway, here is the correct address for future reference...

posted 01-11- 11:57 AM               

Unfortunately, the file format for max stuff changed between R2 and R3 so I can't just switch back and forth to export. Also that old R2 export plugin doesn't have an R3 version.

TS

posted 01-11- 12:11 PM               

JT, when you get to this make sure to use the "ObjExp.dle" export plugin. It's hard to find so if you need it drop me an email.

TS

posted 01-11- 12:46 PM               

I have no knowledge of Max, but texturing in AC3D after you do it a few times isnt that hard. It can go pretty quick.

As for the textures looking smeared in OPS, I have seen this too. Mainly on things such as straight lines. I thought I'd messed something up and spent sometime tyring to see what I did wrong. After giving up, I thought well I should atleast try the plane in the game to check other changes. So after laoding in the game I went to an external view and to my surprise the textures wernt smearded. They looked just fine.

Anyhow if you want send the SM and I can try to texture it for you.

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posted 01-11- 12:55 PM               

I think I'm ok now, I just have to load everything into max 2 and use a version 2 plugin to export and everything should be ok.

Thanks for the offer Zoy, as soon as I get all the textures lined up I'll send you the .sm and .tif file in case you get the urge to do a paint job : )

posted 01-11- 05:28 PM               

Interesting to hear that you are using an older version of the habware plugins under R2 and they are working for you..

posted 01-11- 06:26 PM               

Thanks for the heads up. What is the ObjExp.dle, though? I'm looking at my Max plugins folder and I only see the Obj2Max.dle and the Max2Obj.dle.

Anyway, please send it to me if you get a chance.

jtrivelli@adelphia.net

By the way, I've found that the Habware guy (I forget his name) is very helpful when it comes to using his plugins. If you post in the plugins forum at support.ktx.com, he will usually respond to posts. He's even gone so far as to look at my actual files to help me.

posted 01-12- 05:08 AM               

Here's my MAX2OBJ settings

You can see the version and build date in the dialogs. My MAX2OBJ.dle is in the mail.

Bryan

posted 01-12- 01:32 PM               

keep up the great work,

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posted 01-12- 11:20 PM               

Using Bryan's combination of export settings it works even on my MaxR3 version. Wohoo !!! Bryan saves the day.

TS

posted 01-13- 01:26 PM               

let me look over some photos to see where most of nose art was placed. The tile shouldnt need to be all to big. Another thing I'd like to check on is whether or not the nose art was placed on on sided or the other or both.

I'll post again later,

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posted 01-13- 05:53 PM               

JT: Without getting too technical, the way most graphics engines draw polygons is by using scan lines, Basically the engine concemptually draws the lines of the polygon and for each Y co-ord the smallest X value become the start of a scan line for that Y and the largest becomes the end of a scan line for the Y.

What you end up with is a list of start points indexed on Y co-ord, and a list of end points also indexed on Y c-ords. For each Y co-ord a line is drawn between the start and end X value using the most efficient means possible. Texture and shading/colour values are interoperlated between the vertices, and included in the start and end lists, which are then also interoperlated across the scan line.

For a convex polygon this works well, but for a concave, there would always be a potential for the orientation of the polygon on the drawing surface to produce broken scanlines. It will still draw something but it would end up corrupted.

As a test , draw a outlined 'U' on a piece of paper, which would be a concave polygon, and try to draw single horizontal lines for each row so that the shape of the U is represented.

I hope thats understandable

Bryan