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Tailslide
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posted 01-03- 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

If I have a face like this:

|xxxx|xxxx|xxxxx|
.----.----.-----.

And I want to make this:

|xxxx|xxxx|xxxxx|
.----.----.-----.
|xxxx|xxxx|xxxxx|
.----.----.-----.

Is there any way to clone the bottom points of the first object and drag them down creating the new faces?

TS

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Spyder
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posted 01-03- 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Call that a face?
This is a face!....

xxxxx
xx xx
xxx xxx
x xxxxx x
x xxxxxx xxxxxx x
xx x xx xx x xx
xx xxx x x xxx xx
x x x x x x
x x xx xx x x
x x x x
x x x x
x xxxxxxxxxxxx x
x xxx xx x
x xxx x
x x x
xx xx
xxxxxx

yuk yuk!

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Spyder
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posted 01-03- 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fuck it, it stripped all the spaces out when I posted it, what a load of wank.
oh well...... it looked ok too!
I'll go crawl under a rock now.........

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Pete Hawk
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posted 01-03- 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, using your edit mesh modifier, go into edit vertex mode. Highlight said vertices and then hold down left shift and at the same time your left mouse button and drag the vertices where you want them to end up. When you release the mouse button it'll ask you if you want to clone the part as part of the original, or as a new element. Choose what works best in your case and that's it!

Hope that helps you. (You have to have that little 4 arrow icon, the move icon, pushed
in order to do this)

[This message has been edited by Pete Hawk (edited 01-03-2000).]

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Sv
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posted 01-03- 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
X      X

You need to use the non-breaking space Spyder: & n b s p ; just don't put spaces between the letters there.

Now if you make a face with non-breaking spaces you really need to get a life

If you take time to post about how to make a face with non-breaking spaces then you shouldn't bother trying to get a life, it is too late

-Sv

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Spyder
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posted 01-03- 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sv, come join me under my rock...misery loves company!

I'm going to build an app that draws faces with nbsp's...dum de dum....tra la la...
woooo wooooo
their coming to take me away....haha!

...wooo


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Sv
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posted 01-03- 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really Spyder? That sounds hot! I see IPO potential here.. think of it! Bringing the world of large ascii based smiley faces to the UBB masses... better draw up a non-disclosure.

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Tailslide
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posted 01-03- 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks Pete!

I remember a prog to make ascii pictures from .gif files Spyder could really go nuts with one of those.. oh no forget I said anything hehe

TS


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Tailslide
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posted 01-03- 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I just tried the Shift drag thing on the verticies, it just copies the points and doesn't create the edges and face. (I'm left with my original object with a bunch of unconnected points underneath it).

TS

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Bryan Russell
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posted 01-03- 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bryan Russell   Click Here to Email Bryan Russell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats what it should do. Now you need to build up the faces.

You could also have tried using face sub-object and shift-dragging the faces. You would then need to weld the new verts

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Spyder
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posted 01-03- 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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| | |== | '-'-----.
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Tailslide
Pilot
posted 01-03- 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Face Sub Object? Ok will give it a shot.

Keep at it Spyder : )


Oh I think I found a couple bugs in OPStudio..

-When I load up the FW190 and rotate the rudder it rotates the opposite direction I am dragging but the other parts rotate OK.

-The X Y Z buttons on the toolbar are always grayed out so I can't rotate parts along one axis.

-If you delete an instrument dial and click on the yellow arrow in the 3d view for the deleted item it causes a page fault.

I managed to get my Yak bits into OPStudio and sort of line things up.. it flies great ! Now on to texturing..

TS

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Tailslide
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posted 01-03- 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I just discovered the keyboard shortcuts for rotating and moving parts in OPStudio. It lets you move each part on it's axis.

DOH !

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JT
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posted 01-03- 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JT   Click Here to Email JT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TS,
I'm probably missunderstanding your question, but couldn't you just extrude the faces?

[This message has been edited by JT (edited 01-03-2000).]

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Tailslide
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posted 01-04- 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hey Extruding the faces sort of works. I'm trying to create a new section of faces on the end of a plane that match and connect to the ones that are already at the end of the plane

(side view)

.--.

I want to become

.--.--.

When I do a face extrude I get this:

.--.
|xx|
.--.

(a cube)

if I delete the corners of the cube I don't need I get this:

.
|
.--.

which is close to what I want but the new faces are angled 90 degrees to the existing faces.

Clear as mud hehe

TS


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JT
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posted 01-04- 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JT   Click Here to Email JT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, I'm not exactly clear on what you're trying to do. Do you think you could take some screenshots?

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Tailslide
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posted 01-04- 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I want to go from blue to red

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JT
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posted 01-04- 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JT   Click Here to Email JT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I think I get it, so I'll take a shot...

Bear in mind that I use Max 2.5, so some of this might be different for you...

First, make the two parts editable meshes. Then attach one part to the other using the "attach" button (the attach button is available under the edit mesh panel, but only when sub-object mode is not activated). Next, go into sub-object mode by activating the sub-object button. Make sure "faces", as opposed to vertices or edges, is selected from the menu. Scroll down the edit mesh panel a bit. You will see a list of buttons. The "build face" button allows you to build faces between any three verts. Simply press the "build face" button and then left click on one vert, then pick a second, and then a third. The face will appear. You may need to flip the normal, depending on which direction you built the face, clockwise or counter-clockwise. Anyway, that's a handy tool for manually building faces.

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Tailslide
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posted 01-05- 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I think your first idea's easier .. I can extrude the bottom faces, chop away the extra set of points then drag the others down where I want them and they'll be already faced and edged. It's good to know how to manually build a face though I didn't know about that..

TS

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