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Tailslide
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posted 12-13- 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Is there a tutorial for painting skins in photoshop?

TS

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Razer
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posted 12-13- 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had a year class on PS and i can do a good tutorial if someone wants to help me write it.

Plus i learned a few things last night on that Metal scheme that would help with weathering.

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Tony "Razer" Martin

"Making SDOE a dangerous Place, One plane at a time!"
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[This message has been edited by Razer (edited 12-13-2000).]

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Razer
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posted 12-13- 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tail, i'll give you some pointers in PS if you help me with the FM on the ki-61

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Tony "Razer" Martin

"Making SDOE a dangerous Place, One plane at a time!"
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Rendsburger
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posted 12-13- 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rendsburger   Click Here to Email Rendsburger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Guys, put your brains together and write a tutor!!!!

Rendsburger

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Nat
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posted 12-13- 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've used Photoshopo for a few years now, but as for a tutorial.. I dunno, I've always done alot of artwork with Photoshop, that being said, there are some little things that I'm only just learning/thinking of now to create certain effects, main thing is have alot of filters to choose from, and get use to what they do, EyeCandy is great, I have 3.1 installed and 4 sat around someplce, but I also have over 200 other filters on CD, believe me though, you don't need that maney.. LOL

What I've found very useful recently is having a good wire view 3 way drawing of the aircraft.

I guess I could give tips if helps needed, but I never was very good at tutorials

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wakeup tailgunner
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posted 12-13- 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wakeup tailgunner   Click Here to Email wakeup tailgunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tell you what guys....

I've got photoshop v5, and am not good when it comes to skinning. Odd really, since I am not a bad artist with oils and acrylics...

What I do for a living involves a lot of report writing, so the actual writing up bit of the tutorial is easy for me to do....

So, if you want to rough out some instructions, I'll check em out, try to do them, and write them up into a tutorial.

might make a good section for the Hangar too!

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Nat
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posted 12-13- 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, I'll try and write one here for you to tidy up

The way I dirty skins a bit using a 3 way wire view drawing:

example: Top wing

Starting with the texture, color the area for the top wing with the pattern you want, add markings now also

copy/cut the wings from the wireview and create a new blank texture, past the wings into this.

Resize the wings so they will fit on your texture.

Select a section of the white blank background from the wire view wings, then use "select similar" and all the white will be selected.

Select the Eyecandy filter "swirl" using low settings for whirlpool spacing high detail on the streaks and short streak length, you can re-apply the filter a few times till the white background looks really blotchy, now use "select Inverse" and the wireframe will be selected, now use "select Grow" making sure the tolerance is on a low setting", keep using the grow until you've selcted alot of the blotchy stuff, then hit ctrl C to copy the selection.

Now select your texture and past into it, and then position the frame where the wings should be, now alter the opacitiy of that layer till your happy with it, flatten the image and map it to the wings

The exact same principle applies to the under side of the wings, and the fuse etc, it's a quick and fairly good way of making the joints look like they are weathered.

example pics




Now I just hope thats at least in someway helpful.. lol
~Nat~

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Razer
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posted 12-13- 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, i'll get with who ever want sto write it up and give out some Photoshop skillz i learned in the classes.

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Tony "Razer" Martin

"Making SDOE a dangerous Place, One plane at a time!"
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Diego Lozano
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posted 12-13- 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They have classes on Photoshop? *#$% I had to learn on my own! All I can say is LAYERS man, LAYERS!

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Nat
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posted 12-13- 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Layers are the most awsome tool

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Yardstick
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posted 12-14- 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yardstick   Click Here to Email Yardstick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Layers (for colour scheme, shading, panel lines, markings, and weathering) airbrush and soften tool to bend colours in. Oh and lots of patience

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wakeup tailgunner
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posted 12-14- 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wakeup tailgunner   Click Here to Email wakeup tailgunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES....YES.....YES! Glad to do it Razer!

One happy volunteer stepping forward!

Let me know how you want to work this, and I am happy to try, test, type and so forth. I think this is a good thing to do for everyone out there. Painting skins is a good way to get into modding SDOE, and a few tricks of the trade will improve the results no end! Who knows, I may even manage to produce a skin!

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Arrowbase
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posted 12-14- 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arrowbase   Click Here to Email Arrowbase     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with all artists (and models).
Layers (a lot of) combinated with transparency are the keys of a successful painting.
Personnaly, I'm painting in 1024 x 1024 reducing it in final to 256 x 256.

Even if you lost of details at the final rez, it's pretty useful to paint an higher, especially if you use airbrush.
I also bought a tablet (Wacom is a good one), it's much easy to paint with a pen instead of the mouse pointer, you gesture is much natural.
Another thing: group your layers by kind (ie: top wing, left side, tail and so one) with all your fx and markings associated > a little link shows the association. Do not render or combine your layers with a color or fx or markings (excepting for your final tif), you should need to keep them as templates for use this or this, but not this or this for a future painting of the same plane.

But be aware, Photoshop is very hungry of memory, especially with a lot of layers. My PSD (Photoshop Doc) of the French P47 is about 60 Mb (at 1024 however).

Anyway, I think it's almost exciting to paint a plane that to build her.

Good paint.

Arrowbase

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DanW
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posted 12-15- 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DanW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just use black and white...and an occasional brown color or two.

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Mk10 225th
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posted 12-15- 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mk10 225th   Click Here to Email Mk10 225th     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Dan, but deep inside, aren't you just dying to try some fuschia, magenta, and chartreuse?

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hip63
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posted 12-15- 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hip63   Click Here to Email hip63     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man, I'm glad to see this post! A friend of mine at work passed me his copy of Photoshop 5.0 after picking up the latest greatest version. I admitted it, I'm alittle stuck, anything you guys put together would be great. Until now, my biggest graphics tool was MS Paintbrush (sad Iknow, but hey my Memphis Belle ain't bad for a re-touch !)

hip63

P.S.-Hell, I've had the PS 5.0 for about a month, I kinda wanted to do some skins for the DFC, but I felt I had delayed to long already...

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Tailslide
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posted 12-18- 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks for all the replies ! Between a christmas party and a ski trip I've been offline for a week and my entire body aches. I will try to catch up on the messages real soon.

TS

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