posted 12-07- 03:46 PM               

Would something like this make the possibility of having a plane with a rope, and a hook, snag soemthing and lift it as it flew by?

Aron you just keep experimenting, and we will keep being amazed.

posted 12-07- 05:44 PM               

If not I have one more trick up my sleve to keep this thing from flying around all over the place in the air...

P.S. I cant control the P-51 once its ben detached. That was the problem I had before with the ability to control the Mistel once it released from the Bf-109 These things work hand in hand!

posted 12-07- 07:20 PM               

UPDATE: Ok I limited the swaying in the air and got the P51D glider to fly up at the B-17 towplanes altitude. I just edited the airInc of the P51ds wings. Now its fine until you pass 155-160 mph. Then the glider starts swaying around lots. She still doesnt want to behave if I start out in mid air. I know its something to do with the ropePts but I have very little clue as to what the values should be....

posted 12-07- 07:35 PM               

Starting in mid-air works fine for me! I just set the starting airspeed to 148 knots and the altitude to 1500 and it works fine. I can tow the P-51 around all day, but is there a way to detach it yet, and/or control the P-51?

posted 12-07- 08:15 PM               

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posted 12-07- 09:06 PM               

At this point in time I cant figure out how to control a vehicle after its ben detached from its parent. I can put a pilot seat in the P-51 and you can sit in there while the AI tows you around... but you cant control it.

In the mail you said the P-51 blows up on you if you try to takeoff from the ground...? Im curious are you using a MH beta patch? I can take off fine but starting in mid air is a problem.. the P-51 likes to do stunts behind me. I also have a problem going over 160 mph. The p-51 likes to do loops....

P.S. What kind of SDOE installation do you have? PP6? This also could be a problem. We need to get on the same page here as to what everyone has installed on their SDOE.

posted 12-08- 03:15 AM               

Oh, about the ropepts, how in the heck did you place those? I see your coordinates for them in the properties window but have no idea how to place them on both the tow'er and the tow'ee. Can you give some advice on how you did that?

Thanks

posted 12-08- 07:42 AM               

To place the ropepts.... lol I have no clue! The ropepts you see are the parachute ropepts that I copied/pasted onto the B-17 and P-51. I do know this (I think) The first 3 numbers are X,Y,Z cords (The could be inversed I think... but for now Ill say they are X,Y,Z) and the two numbers after that I THINK are the rope number so you can say what ropepts will attach to what ropepts. So it should look something like this: 12,16,18 1,0 The first three are the cords of the ropept and the last two numbers are I THINK rope # 1.

As for your implementations... Ive ben thinking about these ALOT! But one small step at a time.

posted 12-08- 10:57 AM               

I wonder if we combine Pete's idea using a dof to pull objects (ships, Zep, etc.) and ArgonV's rope trick, if we could make a train that was pulled across the ground?

posted 12-08- 11:50 AM               

Looking forward to getting a chance to play with this some...

posted 12-08- 02:19 PM               

Raider glad to hear you got that working! I was about to try it but now that you have it working, I'll rest the responsibility on you to make parachutes for supply crates and paratroopers.

If rope properties were attached to an object, and that object had the DOF to disable and hide it, the ropePts SHOULD get disabled just like bodyPts do. (Ive tried this with arrestor hooks for the Corsairs, Zeros and F4F4s)

Now as for the carrier arrestor wires.... I dont think the ropes are "solid" which means you can pass right thru them. If the ropes were solid, then you can attach a rope across a carrier deck and see if the hook catches it.

Snickers, its true the PBY flies like a glider, but its WAY too big and WAY too heavy to use for testing. Besides, the test P-51 Im using now does fine.

I'll not make any gliders and such. I'll leave that to the model guros since I have AC3d BUT its not regestered. I'll just do the OPS stuff and figure out how to implement these ideas.

Cheers!

posted 12-08- 03:29 PM               

Now, imagine, instead of towing a plane, you use your obRopePts to "drag" a (solid) "bar" about 15 feet wide. You can set the switchin on the bar to a low number, and it will SEEM to be invisible, but as long as you give it some weight and a phyCylInertia, it will be a solid object.

Now make a couple of (solid) "hooks" sticking up from the carrier deck (the Ark Royal already has some things sticking up that your plane can hit). Give them weight, inertia, and low switchin values to appear invisible. If you put DOFs and spring properties on these "hooks," they could absorb a certain amount of "shock" from impact. Now imagine you land just past the hooks, dragging your lateral "bar" object by the rope points. What happens when the lateral bar "hits" the hooks?

posted 12-08- 03:43 PM               

Or loose their bodyPts completely.

Plus you would have to make the ropes and hooks inactive until you drop you hook. (Just use the breaking DOF method for this) Otherwise your hook-pully system would hit other things aswell!