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Topic: Komrades
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Aui
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posted 08-04- 06:07 PM
   
Anyone out there able to understand russian? (which I think the language in the pic below is...)Could you please if you have the time translate the parts marked with red? I think I've understood the main parts of the sentences and numbers but some words of those sentences marked I really can't decipher.  Many thanks in advance! IP: Logged |
CrossbowArcher
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posted 08-04- 07:44 PM
I can't understand Russian, but I can pronounce it  1st line: Type of aircraft? Mak line: I think it says max speed at 14000ft Kpen(next line): Speed at 1000M(3000ft)
the next line after this:
maximum range at 195kmh is 1212km and the 'stretched' transit range is 3750-4272km and the last circle: Wing area IP: Logged |
Laika 801
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posted 08-04- 07:55 PM
OK - I'll try:Typ: range ocean/sea recon. - ? boat [long range reconaissance ?flying?boat/hydroplane ?] Maximum speed with 14513 Kg (32001 lbs) 283 km/h (175.7 mph) ?in or on water? ? - ? speed at 1000 meters altitude - 234 km/h range (flying) with average speed of 195 km/h - 1212 kilometers, maximum range ? with fuel 3750 liter - 4272 kilometer [I think they mean maximum range with full fuel] wing area 108.5 square meter
Hehe - translated from russian to german to english - not that good, maybe you could post a pic ? I'm really interested what kind of a vehicle this is ! Jumo 205 D ? Hmmm...
I guess a "Blohm and Voss Bv138" !!!! Hehe !
LK
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Laika 801
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posted 08-04- 08:01 PM
crossbow - good, but second line is 14513 KG (kilogram) and "BODbI" is water...
the rest is better than mine  LK
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Laika 801
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posted 08-04- 08:58 PM
Aui ! what is it ? I still bet it is a Bv138 ! Enlight my dumbness :µLK IP: Logged |
Snickers
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posted 08-04- 11:40 PM
What was the Russian designation for the PBY? ------------------
Snickers
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Aui
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posted 08-05- 12:58 PM
I think you guys are mostly right... Thanks!!!But the Kpen line could also maybe mean normal cruise altitude and speed. I wonder what it is? The reason I asked about the very last part with 108,5 KB.M is it differs a bit from the 112 sq.m all my others sources claim - but I also do think it still is the wing area despite. Hey Laika, how did you manage to translate the words? Owning a russian lexicon - how come? Oh by the way, nice guess Laika...
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Laika 801
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posted 08-05- 01:55 PM
Hehe - no no - no russian library here, only a technical dictionary LK IP: Logged |
Aui
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posted 08-05- 06:42 PM
I forgot...Snickers JFYI, the Russian designation was probably Catalina - spelled as in the drawing. Most likely had some different local nicknames though that I don't know.  //Aui IP: Logged |
Laika 801
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posted 08-05- 06:48 PM
Aui ! Where is this "Modelist Konstruktor" scan from ??? Could you post the adress here or did you own some of the magazines ?LK IP: Logged |
Aui
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posted 08-06- 09:06 AM
Sorry to disappoint you but it seems I got it from http://www.catalina.demon.nl/pby/catalina_photos.htm under misc photos. But they maybe know where they got it from...Best luck //Aui IP: Logged |
Poniat
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posted 08-06- 04:52 PM
OK, here is my try:* Type- long distance sea reconnaicance - flying boat * Engines - three diesels Junkers Jumo-205D, 6 piston boxer, 880 HP (don't know what 'na vzl'ete' means) * Armament - one 20mm MG-151 cannon in the nose and ventral turret each and one 13 mm MG-131 machinegun in the central engine pylon, 3x 50 kg bombs under the right inner wing or on the U1 (?) - 6x 50 kg bombs or 3 depth charges * Max vel.: 283 km/h at 14513 kg at sea level (could also mean: on the Sea Lion's back ) * Cruise speed: 234 km/h at 1000m * Range (or radius, don't know): typical at 195 km/h - 1212 km; max. with fuel reserve 3750 l - 4272 km * Rate of climb: to 3170 m in 24 mins * Ceiling: 5000 m with 14513 kg; 2800 m with 17666 kg * Duration of flight: typical - 6,5 h; max. 18 h * weight: empty - 11780 kg; 'flying'(normal loaded?) 14513 kg; MTOW 17666 kg Dimentions: wingspan 26,95 m ; lenght - 18,95 m; height - 5,9 m; wing area - 108,5 square m Hope the above helps but please, don't ask me to translate War and Peace for you [This message has been edited by Poniat (edited 08-06-2000).] [This message has been edited by Poniat (edited 08-06-2000).] IP: Logged |
Aui
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posted 08-06- 05:49 PM
Many thanks Poniat! I do think your version is the correct one!
And how come you own a russian dictionary? BTW, I see you are from Poland - I have a polish booklet on the BV 138 that I've translated with the help of a polish-swedish dictionary. Took days! And I only translated the most important parts! But there still are some few words (about 10) that I really wood like to have translated. Could I maybe mail them in their sentences to you so if you had the time and wanted could help me? It would really be helpful! About War and Piece... No need. I already have that one - even in swedish. Greetings //Aui [This message has been edited by Aui (edited 08-06-2000).] IP: Logged |
Poniat
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posted 08-06- 06:36 PM
I'm glad I for once was of some help to somebody on this forum Aui, no probs, you can even send me the book, any other aviation books you have - send them too . Seriously, do it, I'll see how well I know Polish for a change Oh yeah, do you want me to translate to Swedish? I hope not! Greetings ------------------
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Aui
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posted 08-07- 11:24 AM
> Aui, no probs, you can even send me the book, any other aviation books you have - send them too .Hehe I bet you would like that eh? Too bad I only own three aviation books. Thanks. I'll mail the sentences to you.
Btw - I noticed wood in my last post should actually be would 
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Whirlwind
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posted 08-07- 12:47 PM
What airplane are you doing again? I have some pictures for the Dornier, but not a lot for the cat.IP: Logged |
Aui
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posted 08-08- 04:53 PM
BV 138C-1
Thanks for the offer Whirlwind! I have over 200 pictures and drawings in my books but if you happen to have any cockpit or interior photos I would be very interested! Also any photos of a seaplane tenders catapult in general. (Although I doubt you have any of the above - they seem to be very rare  ) //Aui IP: Logged |
Whirlwind
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posted 08-09- 09:45 AM
I'll look when I get home Would an image of a catapult from a battle ship work? I have one of those. I am not sure about the tender catapult pic, I do have one of a He 59 being towed by a sub (take from the sub itself).IP: Logged |
Aui
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posted 08-09- 04:24 PM
> Would an image of a catapult from a battle ship work?
Yes, that could give me some clues at least! Although I won't come to that part of modeling for a long time it's always nice to have access to the pictures when I do.The sub-towing picture is not necessary. I have 4 of those with BV138s on tow. But thanks anyway. Gracias! IP: Logged |
Whirlwind
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posted 08-10- 08:13 AM
I'll scan it in tonight, it a picture of one of the low wing monoplanes used on the Schonhorst (excuse the spelling, please). It is the only one I found off hand.IP: Logged |
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