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Topic: Landing gear that rips off when it gets put down in-flight?
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ArgonV
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posted 07-22- 04:46 AM
   
Ok, I dont see why we cant model this. Why hasnt anyone modeled this? Any reason? Has someone tried but was unsuccessfull? I vote to start adding this to the new planes from now on and update the old ones for the next plane pack. It would enhance the realism of this game. Any other WWII sim thats out has this modeled and here we are with OPS heaven and all its possibilities and no one has done this yet? Im just wondering why...IP: Logged |
Jeeves
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posted 07-22- 08:29 AM
Why don't you try flying the Spit 9 around at speeds greater than 160 or so and try to put your gear down...you might be surprised  !!!------------------
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jedi
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posted 07-22- 08:34 AM
Actually, this wouldn't be all that realistic. The landing gear is one of the strongest parts of the plane. It's probably not going to separate from the airframe due to overspeed. It would be more realistic for the gear to perhaps BEND at high speed if extended, and it's certainly possible that it would JAM partway down, which would look cool. That would take some clever damage work tho. You would need to make the real gear disappear, create the "jammed" gear in its place, and activate a DOF to make it extend partially and an airfoil to give it some drag. It would be a nice effect tho...The gear DOORS on the other hand, are pretty weak. They might easily get ripped away. The gear on the Corsair can be shot away so that you don't get both gear if your wing is badly damaged.
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Falck
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posted 07-22- 10:18 AM
Some landing gear hydraulics just werent designed to force the gear down at high speeds. It would probably stay mostly retracted, but unlocked.IP: Logged |
ArgonV
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posted 07-22- 12:56 PM
Actually Ive read accounts when pilots (rookies) forgot to put their gear up and they ripped off. Ive also heard of stories where the hydrolics where shot to pieces in combat and the gear just popped open and ripped off soon afterwards. It is a realistic thing. Making the gear bend wouldnt be hard at all. Look at the FokkerDVIIIs wings, they bend nicely.[This message has been edited by ArgonV (edited 07-22-2000).] IP: Logged |
Maury Markowitz
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posted 07-24- 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by ArgonV:
Actually Ive read accounts when pilots (rookies) forgot to put their gear up and they ripped off. Ive also heard of stories where the hydrolics where shot to pieces in combat and the gear just popped open and ripped off soon afterwards.
Do you know what kind of planes these were? Just for argument's sake, in the F4U the gear were also speed breaks, by hitting them at high speed the front of the door would open and act as dive flaps (I'd love to see that in the game!). These things were STRONG, I'd suspect that pretty much anything else would break from high speed first. Consider the case where the out-of-control airliner put them down at high speed for extra drag. That's not to say that there's a problem with gear at high speed, but I'd just imagine it's a little more detailed than "drag breaks it off". Hmmm, I used to fly an Arrow, I'll see if I can get the details. Damb, can you believe it, Piper doesn't even have an e-mail address? Maury IP: Logged |
Jerry
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posted 07-24- 10:21 AM
Following up on Maury's info., the gear on all Navy planes is very rugged, designed for hard carrier landings. It would least likely be damaged by lowering at high speeds in the Corsair and the other Navy planes coming on.IP: Logged |
ArgonV
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posted 07-24- 11:50 AM
Point well taken. Landing gear on Navy planes were strong as hell. But lets say you lower your gear at 400 mph on any plane? Would they rip off at that high speed?IP: Logged |
Falck
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posted 07-24- 12:09 PM
ArgonV, it depends on the aircraft.
If the gear could be lowered at that speed, sure it would probably break. But during my research on the P40 I found that the hydraulics just wont lower it into such a fast airstream. It would probably jam or remained unlocked.IP: Logged |
ArgonV
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posted 07-24- 12:10 PM
Ahh, then how do we model that? Is that possible in Openplane?P.S. I cant wait to fly your P-40! IP: Logged |
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