posted 06-20- 07:58 PM               

I have some comments which I hope are constructive and may relate to Plane Pack 5.3c or 5.4! It is also likely that others have already noticed these things and brought them to your attention.

1. Me 109E4
- appears on my screen to have rounded wing tips. All the pictures I have seen show it with straight wing tips;
- is armed with only 2 machine guns and 1 cannon in the sim. Most of the information I have seen indicate that it USUALLY has 2 machine guns on the fuselage and 2 FF cannon mounted in the wings. I believe that often the spinner cannon was often removed due to unreliability.

2. Me 262
- the F10 (gunsight quick view) show me the back of my seat!

3. Fw190A3 and A8
- the F10 (gunsight quick view) shows me instrument panel only. Perhpas this was intentional.

4. Fw190A4
- the grey arrow "reflections" on the cockpit glazing are too far to the left. They appear to point to the top left corner of the fixed glass windscreen rather than the middle of the windscreen. These planes, I find hard enough to fly as it is without pulling the nose of the plane into view with it pointing the wrong way !

5. P47
- no gunsight visible in any views except in F10. It appears that I am looking over the top of a gunsight with the reflector glass missing.

Having said that, I LOVE it ...

Since PP5.3b (in comparison with PP 5.1 all that time ago), this game has stayed on my Hard Drive.

Best regards to all
Mark W

posted 06-21- 10:45 AM               

2. Me 262
This has been going through some changes to update a few things. Pilot view was moved to let the cockpit move. I never use F10.
3. Fw190A3 and A8
I have no problems flying these planes. I never use F10.
4. Fw190A4
i've never noticed the cockpit arrow since i mostly fly 109's. I have no problems lfying the planes. Low the sensitivity in the joystick. I never use F10.
5. P47
Like the above statements, I never use F10.

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Tony "Razer" Martin

http://www.fshangar.com

posted 06-21- 11:48 AM            

1. 190a4 - certainly no longer "uber" - perhaps a bit "unter" a real challenge to fly and not lose speed in an extended turning fight. Few people seem to want to fly it anymore, although I like it. Tailslide - I'm not saying change it but perhaps some additional performance testing could help confirm its accuracy / suggest improvements. Is there any testing you would like done? (Perhaps I can do some for you).
   
2. B17 G - Engine damage has gone back to the engines disappearing as in the original version. Perhaps we can bring back the 5.2 version. I'm not sure what changes were made in the 5.3 version, perhaps applying the damage fix done to the engines originally will be easier.

   
   On the 1.1 Contest pack:
   

3. 190a8 and 190a3 both seem to suffer from a compressed left wheel when you start on the ground. This looks like an artifact from an earlier version of the fw190 which was fixed in the more recent plane packs.
   

posted 06-21- 01:48 PM               

IMHO the 190A4 is probably close, it definitely does 10,000 feet in 3 minutes. The p51 climbs way to good and the spit could probably use some retesting for sustained climb as it seems too good compared to the A4 now.

Speed bleed in the 190A4, P51, and p38 are comparable to each other but the Spit and p47 bleed speed much less easily. Biggles offered to have his dad (who flies WW2 planes) answer some questions and I never got to putting together a list. I'm not sure if he flew the older vintage Spit V, 190A4, etc or just the newer types though. Speed bleed is still a question mark in my book. Maybe its right, maybe some bleed to fast, maybe some bleed to slow. Not sure.

Attached are a list of things I made to look at before 5.4 these may not all be problems, just things I jotted down to double check on:

-p51d climbs better than 109K above 15k
-SpitV and 109F have same turning ability even though the wing loading is 29
vs 40
- new p51 texture makes the hole in the front of the cooler green instead of black
- P51d climbs almost as well as 190a4, should be 600fpm worse
- ground handling on p51 is improved but still needs work, if there is any crosswind the plane will spin in circles even with partial throttle
- 109's - when I fly through clouds everything goes white can't see instruments
- B17 engines disappear when damaged like original plane (are jags props and FM updates still there?)
- 190A3 map view partially visible
- 190A3 gunsight very low difficult to aim
- spit IX may climb better than 109G6 above 15k.. needs verifying
-I broke a wheel off of the planes and I could land on the strut without it breaking off.. I forget which plane either the p51, 190A8 or one of the 109s (hows that for specific? )
-There's alot of warping online with 109 missions some work on the LODs or making the glass reflections optional would be cool
-a new p51d texture accidentally got included theyre green now
-Spit1a guns ineffective online due to damage bug
-p51 climbs better than the 190A8
-map view in A8 and Dora only partially visible
-109s may be too responsive at high speed
-spit1a prop fudge that allows AI to takeoff over hills gives it a boost at the tops of loops

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Patch It!

TS Aircombat

posted 06-21- 01:55 PM               

Our spit when pulled into a climb from a dive loses less E and overtakes the 190. Whether this is a problem with the spit or 190 I am not sure.

These numbers could be double checked in SDOE if you have time:

Spitfire Mk.Vb
Height.top spd..time to climb....rofc
2,000..-------..00m36s...........3,240ft/min
5,000..-------..01m30s...........3,240
10,000...331....03m06s...........3,250
15,000...351....04m36s...........3,250
20,000...371....06m24s...........2,440
25,000...359....08m24s...........1,750
30,000...---....12m12s...........1,170

Juzz:
books called "Spitfire" by Alfred Price - combination of 2 previous books "Spitfire at war" (1974) and "Spifire at war 2" (1984) published by PRC Publishing 1991
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spit Vb
1440 hp Merlin 45
374mph@13k
ceiling 37k

Spit 1
1030hp Merlin 2?
355mph@19k
ceiling 34k

Vb - 357@6k
374@13k

empty 5065lbs loaded 6650lbs
mkVb

Mk 1 - time to height 15k in 6.85 mins
Mk IX - 20k in 5.7

Spitfire Mk Vb vs Fw190 (A model, captured in June 1942 -
A3/4?) performance data:

Speed at Altitudes:
1000ft Fw190 is 25-30mph faster than Spit V
3000ft " 30-35mph faster
5000ft " 25mph faster
9000ft " 25-30mph faster
15000ft " 20mph faster
18000ft " 20mph faster
21000ft " 25mph faster
25000ft " 20-25mph faster

Climb:
The climb of the Fw190 is superior at all altitudes - the best climb speeds
for both planes are roughly the same, but the angle of the Fw190 climb is
considerably steeper. Under max. continuous climbing conditions the Fw190 is
about 450ft/min better up to 25k ft. With both aircraft at flying at high
cruising speed and then pulling up into a climb, the superior climb of the
Fw190 is even more marked. When both are pulled into a climb after a dive,
the Fw190 draws away very rapidly and the pilot of the Spit has no hope of
catching it.

Dive:
Comparitive dives have shown the Fw190 can leave teh Spit with ease,
particularly during the initial stages.

Manoeuverability:
The Maneuverability of the Fw190 is better except in turning circles.

Fw190 vs Spitfire Mk IX

Speed at alt:
2k ft - Fw190 faster by 7-8 mph
5k ft - Approximately the same
8k ft - Spit is 8mph faster
15k ft - Spit is 5mph faster
18k ft - Fw190 is 3 mph faster (spit must be just changing to 2nd blower??)
21k ft - Approximately the same
25k ft - Spitfire 5-7 mph faster

posted 06-21- 02:03 PM               

TS

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Patch It!

TS Aircombat

posted 06-21- 11:45 PM               

Thank-you for your response.

Most importantly for the P47, on my version there is NO SIGHT at all UNLESS you use F10! I.e. No sight most of the time.

I will send you screen shots of 109E4.

I am almost certain that the E5 has wing cannon. I suspect that the E4 did too. Perhaps others with extensive libraries would be able to help here!

Regards,
MW