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Laika 801 Pilot	posted 06-10- 05:32 PM ..all together is only 31% - a downer math-wise, but hey! wait for the next weekend, things should look much better.. LK IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 06-10- 06:17 PM Laika, you really are doing a bang up job! The Russians need this bomber as they only have 2 planes to date. I'm very happy to see such progress and I know (after flying the Rata) you will do a surpurb job. IP: Logged
Laika 801 Pilot	posted 06-10- 06:39 PM Actually I could need 2 heads (3 would be better) and about 32 fingers...but one thing is sure: While working on the Pe2 it becomes clear that the I-16 is really not perfect at all - I'll redo and add some things to the I-16 when the Pe2-beta is out. LK IP: Logged
Private Roger Pilot	posted 06-10- 06:53 PM Laika I love what you have done so far. I'm with all the other guys who are having a difficult time waiting for this aircraft. I know it will be great! PR=FC= IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 06-12- 12:55 AM In case anyone else is interested in the eastern front: Coming Soon from Pacifica Military History -- BLACK CROSS / RED STAR: The Air War Over the Eastern Front Volume 1 (Operation Barbarossa, 1941) of Black Cross/Red Star should begin shipping in early or mid August. If you wait until then to order, the book will cost US$39.95 + $6.00 shipping (in USA*) via UPS Ground for the first book and $1.00 for each additional copy. California sales tax, if you live here, is $3.30 per book. BUT -- if you buy direct and prepay by July 15, we will charge only US$30.00 per book, plus shipping (same as above), plus $2.48 if California sales tax applies. You may pay by check, money order, MasterCard, or Visa. ** Shipments to Canada and overseas will go by book-rate mail. These need to be individually priced, so please email your order (or inquiry) to bcrs@pacificamilitary.com so we can price the shipment for you. Payment must be in USD. See descriptive text below. And visit the Black Cross / Red Star website at http://www.blackcross-redstar.com to download an exciting free sample chapter in Adobe Acrobat pdf format (viewable on any computer with a free Adobe Acrobat reader). The ordering address is: Pacifica Military History 1149 Grand Teton Dr Pacifica, CA 94044 USA Phone: 800-453-3152 from anywhere in North America Email: bcrs@pacificamilitary.com We will not deposit your check or charge your MasterCard or Visa until we have books to ship. +++++++++++++++****************** BLACK CROSS / RED STAR The Air War Over the Eastern Front Volume I Operation Barbarossa, 1941 336 8.5" x 11" pages with 187 photos (many never before published), 6 maps, glossary, appendix, bibliography, source notes, and index. Published by Pacifica Military History ISBN 0-935553-48-7 THE AIR WAR OVER THE EASTERN FRONT in World War II was history's largest and longest air campaign. Nevertheless, it has been one of the least known and least understood chapters of aviation history. This is because earlier publications on this immense subject have been based on material taken almost exclusively from the German side. Black Cross/Red Star--in four photo-laden volumes--is to be the most complete and detailed series ever published on the air war over the Eastern Front. It presents for the first time a true balance between German and Soviet accounts. Aviation historians Christer Bergström and Andrey Mikhailov have undertaken a huge research effort to glean the true events of this air war. Thanks to their painstaking research and brilliant analysis of German archival material, some of the first Soviet Air Forces records ever to be seen in the West, and newly released information from German and Soviet airmen who participated, they are able present in this series many valuable new insights into the vast Eastern Front aerial struggle. Christer Bergström has been a scholar of the history of the German Air Force in World War II for almost thirty years and has written several other books on this subject. Andrey Mikhailov is recognized as a well-versed scholar in the history of the Soviet Air Forces. Black Cross/Red Star is his first book. >>>>>>>>>>>>Order now and save US$9.95 per copy!<<<<<<<<<<<< Find out about the other great military history books published by Pacifica Military History at http://www.pacificamilitary.com ------------------ Patch It! TS Aircombat [This message has been edited by Tailslide (edited 06-12-2000).] IP: Logged
Laika 801 Pilot	posted 06-12- 03:25 AM Any idea how to purchase this book in/from germany without a credit card ??? LK IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 06-12- 09:04 AM Try emailing them.. the address is up there. TS IP: Logged
Laika 801 Pilot	posted 06-12- 12:31 PM Holy Shit ! My system crashes 20 times per hour and I dont know why ! Damn ! Tail --> Could you check your mail ?? LK IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 06-12- 04:46 PM I've got all the pieces of the pe-2 finally but I can't look at it until after work.. TS IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 06-13- 02:49 PM Laika, I just ordered my book, the shipping to Canada was very reasonable ($5) I don't know where you live but the fellow said overseas delivery was not very expensive. TS ------------------ Patch It! TS Aircombat IP: Logged
Laika 801 Pilot	posted 06-13- 08:14 PM Fine - I'll try to order it too, seems to be very interesting, I'll see what they say when I ask to pay without a card. But hey Mr. Tailslide - what's with the test results ???? Does it work or not ?? LK IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 06-14- 10:49 AM I'll give it a try tonight.. I was trying to shoehorn the grand canyon into openplane last night and it just didn't want to go TS IP: Logged
Aladar Pilot	posted 06-14- 11:14 AM Hey, I dont know ifyou got my e-mail, but it worked fine for me. ------------------ Aladars ONLY project, the Bristol Scout "Don't move, if we scatter, he'll pick us off! Stand Together!"~~Aladar IP: Logged
Laika 801 Pilot	posted 06-14- 03:52 PM Aladar - sorry no mail from you - anyway now it works ! Thanks LK IP: Logged
Laika 801 Pilot	posted 06-14- 04:05 PM Ughhh - work goes slowly, did some things with the panel today, aaahh - new textures are needed, instruments are still not 100% clear (what and where..). Added 2nd & 3rd LOds to the pilot and Navigator. Pilot.sm is OK, Navigator is still "bugish". UBK-rear-gun is working better now, but still not perfect. 2nd cockpit Lods is done. New propellers are fine (with dmg-Lods). BodyPts are done. Inertias are done (position only). Still to do (in no order ): - "upper-tail-window" - Radio Operator's position - Main Panels - Instruments - Side Panels - more side panels - rudder/steer thing - wheel Pts - pylons/bays - detail (radio mast etc.) - FM (mostly Tailslides job) - DM IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 06-14- 06:17 PM Tested it laika.. -instrument panel is missing, but needles are there -training mission for ground attack has no bombs I love what you've done so far!! The damage lods are excellent and it is also WAY more FPS friendly than any of the other bombers in the game. This is going to be my favourite bomber for sure. Are you using .wrl export from max to get n-gons ? TS IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 06-15- 12:41 AM Laika.. FYI http://www.blackcross-redstar.com/BC1Sample.pdf IP: Logged
Laika 801 Pilot	posted 06-15- 12:29 PM Tail - no panel ? Hmmm - strange, very strange. I checked it back, and it should be there (along with the old needles from the base plane (lanc)). Of course the training mission for ground attacks has no bomb, cause there are no bombs in the loadout, cause the pylons/bombPts are not set up yet. I didn't use the .wrl import to save polys, I read an article on camasutra - I believe the usage of n-gons or quads won't increase FPS much, the major thing is the vertex-pool - less verts - better FPS !? Well, it seems we won't see a beta in the next time - trouble with the turret/gun dofs and not enought time to work all day... Today I started with the gunsight (hi-res model is nearly done, no textures yet) and textured the instruments on the panel wich are known... One other thing - the rear gunner needs a new 2nd lod (3rd lod, the old ones are without legs, but that doesnt look good ) - more work... Oleg from Maddox (IL-2) didn't replied yet to my "help me" post, he's the only one who could help me with the instruments, I hope he will be so kind and help me again - Its a fact, and I'm very proud, that he sends me much material for the Pe2, ultra detailed drawings and such stuff, thanks Oleg ! I mailed to another russian guy, it seems he knows much about the turrets/gun installation used for the Pe-2...I hope he replies... And - I got a small rest of a privat life, beside the Pe2, and unfortunatly there are also some problems We'll see what I can do this night LK IP: Logged
charmstar Pilot	posted 06-15- 02:55 PM Hey Laika- The progress you are making on this plane is amazing! Don't burn yourself out doing it though. I'm astonished that only one person is currently working on SDOE's first user created WWII multi-crew aircraft, and that so much work has been done toward its completion! That said, I eagerly await the next version of it. :-) charm IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 06-15- 06:59 PM Don't forget the JU-188(?) .. nice plane IP: Logged

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