posted 06-04- 12:16 PM               

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posted 06-04- 03:06 PM               

So is the vrml plugin fulling working in every respect? any bugs or workarounds?

posted 06-04- 05:02 PM               

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Cheers!
Jaguar
The FS Hangar

posted 06-04- 05:20 PM               

Any chances of loading vrml_2 stuff?

I got a program that only spits out 2 and not 1

When i try a 2 it doesn't see any mesh to load

its all owrking great BTW thanks

posted 06-04- 06:49 PM               

Well I got a vrml97 object exported from max and had no problem getting it in OPS

YIPPEE

i have new problems though and a question.

Do i have to click on load mesh too? its not by default but i did.

posted 06-04- 08:37 PM               

Load mesh and position objects do pretty much what they say. If you don't select load mesh then it will just position (assuming it is checked) and if you only have load mesh checked then it will not try to position.

There a couple of little tricks for which I will have to write some thing up for. The mains ones are:

* Although the OPS Plugin supports it MAX doesn't seem to like objects with multiple textures/materials, so if you have something like this you may need to seperate them out into seperate objects. If you try it you will end up with two(or more) identical meshes (the same object though) each one of the matierlas applied. The VRML 1.0 export seems to work OK for this so I'll probably be adding VRML 1.0 support to the plugin in the future. The doco for MAX says it does but I think you need to use the actual multi/sub-object material stuff, which I couldn't get working properly.

* The OPS plugin does not like a heirarchy in the file. i.e. a object that has a child. The exception is when the 'parent' object has no actual shape, as in when you group objects in MAX. Grouping is useful when you seperate objects (to get around the problem above) so you can still move etc them as one.

* There seems to be some unknown matrix stuff wrapped in some MAX scenes, which could cause an imported VRML model not to be positioned correctly in OPS. I'm sure I'm just not handling the VRML file right, but in any case you can work around it but electing the entire model and using the reset x-form utility. In the ones I did most of the model didn't change at all but the translations and rotations got exported OK after it.

I'll write a bit of a doco in a while to cover this stuff. Anything else please let me know.

Bryan

posted 06-05- 12:14 AM               

Thankyou man !

The He-111 at 20% ??? What are you doing the whole day ?

posted 06-05- 12:59 AM               

Actually if anyone has a problem with a VRML file send it to me. The more files the merrier!

posted 06-05- 01:10 AM               

On the bright side, the fuselage of my yak imported AND the shading bug in it got fixed in the process !! The positioning code seems to work very well for most things too, except I'm having a hard time figuring out how to import the wings at an angle, with the .obj plugin I would rotate the pivot point but that doesn't seem to work with VRML.

posted 06-05- 02:22 AM               

I don't rotate the pivot, rather I rotate the verts when in Edit(able) Mesh->Vertices. It might amount to the same thing with OBJ but VRML includes lots of translational things that maybe I don't support yet.

BTW can you flick over the WRL files, just in case the "out of memory" is some sort of setup thing with the VRML plugin?

Believe it or not the released version of the Hurricane was completely positioned in MAX, albeit using the OBJ plugin but the principles the same. The He111 was all VRML, yet another of my creations which is nothing more than a glorified test bed .

Makes it really easy when all you have to do is export and it just happens! Maybe I'll get the Intertia etc stuff sorted out and relegate OPS to a fancy MAX->SM file converter and viewer

posted 06-05- 08:57 AM               

By rotate the verts, you mean you make the wings in 3d studio the way they look in real life and get everything lined up, then rotate the verts so the wing is flat, then import it into OPS, then manually rotate and line them back up?

I'm also having trouble importing my tailfins which have the axis rotated 90 degrees in opstudio.

posted 06-05- 09:46 AM               

Well, For what I use OPS for ... the beta worked like a charm ...

FWIW ... I know us tweakers/designers ask an awfull lot considering this fine app of your is free and all ...

... I just wanted to say "THANKS" for putting up with us and providing us such a fine tool!

posted 06-05- 02:44 PM               

A BIG Thankyou !!!