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jedi
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posted 05-25- 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jedi   Click Here to Email jedi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, as most of you are probably aware, some of the planes are REALLY hard to land. What I've noticed is that a lot of them simply bounce too much. You bounce too high, lose airspeed, drop down harder, bounce back too high again, etc etc etc. By the time the plane stays down, you've got all kinds of rudder inputs and whatnot, and if this happens at around 60 mph or so, the weird ground handling (do our tires even HAVE friction or what?) kicks in and you get a ground loop. Sometimes even VERY smooth landings start your plane "bunny hopping" to oblivion.

Contrast that with the P-47, which bounces "just right" and then sticks on landing, so you can steer and slow down while you still have control.

So...how do you set up the landing gear springs and so forth to get the bounce "right?" Examples where it's clearly NOT right are the Mustang and Corsair What sort of relationship should exist between the weight of the plane and the landing gear spring DOFs and dampers?

Hehe the real Corsair was too bouncy too, but they fixed it eventually...

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Condor
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posted 05-25- 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Condor   Click Here to Email Condor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Jedi,

Don't know the answer, but maybe just experiment with less spring in the gear and see what happens. As for the p47, yes I agree it is a bouncy plane on landing but the gear does fall apart when you hold the break for a bit. I hope there is some middle ground between bouncy and breaking landing gear. Just my thoughts.

Condor out

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Razer
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posted 05-25- 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Ki-61 doesn't bounce but that's cause theres no contact points on the wheels so it just slams into the ground


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Tailslide
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posted 05-25- 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yeah definitely play around with the gear and damping. If its too bouncy you fly into the air, if it's not bouncy enough you break a gear or flip onto your side. This helped alot in the 5.3b 190A4 everyone seems to be nailing their landings first try now.

TS

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Laika 801
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posted 05-25- 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right ! Bad thing is that this is a new point on my to-do list for the I-16

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