posted 05-23- 06:58 PM               

OK, I made a basic torp (which I've passed onto Roy for smoothing and anything else he can think of) thing is, it falls nice and flat and all that, but I want it to "glide" more, is there a way I can give it more lift so that it will stay up longer and have a longer glide path?

oh, btw, no, it wont travel along water.. LOL, thats why I want to lengthen it's glide path, so atleast you can release it from greater distance, and although it still acts like a bomb, think it's the best go between we have for now.

Thanks Guys

posted 05-23- 07:15 PM               

Ideally there would be a way to make the torpedo have 2 phases: first, it would drop like a normal bomb, then second, it would glide, skimming the surface of the water. The thing is, you would have to make it change to the second aspect only when it gets close to the water... that means you would have to somehow tie it in to qryAltitude, or whatever the altitude function call is, and then assume water is at altitude = 0. Or, you would have to have some subobject that would probe the area underneath the torpedo, and detach at low level.

Ideas: could you make phyLBS = qryAltitude so that it gets lighter, thus gliding better, the lower it goes?
Or, could you make a subobject with a specified phyLBS, which would be a certain distance beneath the torp, which would detach when it hits the water, lightening the torp and allowing it to glide?
Or better yet, could you borrow from the PBY project, making a subobject "hull" with infinite obHits that would allow the torp to bounce along the surface of the water until it reached its obKillDelay, or its trigger bumped into something?

I really wish somebody could figure some hack to get torps working. _sigh_

posted 05-23- 07:54 PM               

Charm, I tried lightening it up by 500lbs, but it falls just the same, the weight is actaully irrelevant when it come to falling objects, 1lbs or 5000lbs, they fall the same. The one about a qryaltitude I'm not sure on, thats not my forte. Obhits doesn't do it either, I completely removed the obhits (so it takes no damge) and released it.. armed it explodes on hitting the water, and unarmed it goes pretty much straight through the water... LOL

I changed it's airfoil to one that I thought might help, gave it the LANC airfoil.. didn't seem to do much, but then airfoils and aircraft stuff aint my thang either

Still as it is right now it's not bad, just want it to be better thats all.

posted 05-23- 09:03 PM               

Any way you can add a engine and wings on your torpedo? Just make them invisible and make the engine silent. It could be like a flying bomb and have lift. Im pretty sure theres a way to make it have more lift at a certain speeds, and Im pretty sure theres a way to make the torpedo loose speed as it drops. So when it gets at a certain altitude and speed it would start to pull up slightly. Then, you could make it clip thu the water like the pilot does. Just have it not clip thu objects like ships. So, when you launch the torpedo... it hits the water but goes thu it and does not explode. And when it goes thu the water at a certain speed, it starts to pull up slightly to hit the ships hull, and when it hits the ship it explodes.

posted 05-23- 09:25 PM               

Can you do a qryAlt and then modify the speed of the engine accordingly (to keep it in the air longer...)? Not my forte.

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posted 05-24- 12:29 AM               

Unfortunately, it doesn't work very well. The bomb will "bounce" ONCE, and not very far, and only if you're VERY low (at least that part is "realistic") But without getting a couple more bounces out of it, IF I can get it to explode on a "timer," the airplane will be too close.

The engine thing won't work I think. How do you start the engine? You'd have to make it a "vehicle." But then how do you "drop" a vehicle? The only other thing I thought about was making the bomb the same shape as an airplane (with the airplane shape invisible) so that it will glide well. If you practice with a plane, you'll see you can bounce it off the water several times before it dies by using the elevator. So I thought if you increased the wing incidence (airInc) each time the plane-shape takes damage, it might skip off the water a foot or so, and its speed keeps it from smashing back in. Just repeat a few times.

The problem with that one is that, with no engine, the plane shape just plops into the water, or maybe skips once.

Oh yeah, one more: make an airfoil object that's big, wide, and flat. This might skip across the water like your wings do when you explode on ditching. Then have your weapon suspended above the flat object. The object skips or skids across the water, but your weapon is "safe" until it runs into something. You could even make a visible shape with no substance that looked like a partially-submerged torpedo and have the actual explosive weapon be invisible.

Lotsa ideas, but nothing working yet.

posted 05-24- 09:04 AM               

I'll have a look at it again.. bbut I couldn't see how to enlarge the airfoil.. I'll see what I can find though

posted 05-24- 12:20 PM               

within bomb, you have the obFunc defined as obFunc('StartTimer (obKillDelay 20)). So, the bomb skips up, and it doesn't explode for another 20 seconds. Would that work?

charm

posted 05-24- 03:14 PM               

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