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Michael Harrison
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posted 05-19- 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Harrison   Click Here to Email Michael Harrison     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Several of you have asked what's taking so <insert expletive> long in getting the SOS going and why we haven't whipped the lawyers into getting it done faster.

As it turns out, the delay is more about Parsoft/Inertia than lawyers. In short, Parsoft still has full rights to the OpenPlane engine and Inertia is using it under license. Transferring ownership of OpenPlane to Inertia is in progress, but will take an undetermined amount of time (with luck, we're only talking about a few months more). Rather than create an SOS license through Parsoft, which will then have to be re-done once Inertia has full ownership of OpenPlane, it made more sense to wait until the asset transfer is complete before starting SOS.

So... Does this mean that people interested in getting hold of the source will have to wait several months more?

No.

We'll take applications on a case by case basis, but if you are interested in reviewing the code for up to 90 days please send the following to michaelh@inertiagames.com

Full name
Mailing address
Voice phone number
Fax number (required to receive the NDA)
** Purpose for which you intend to use the source **

This NDA will not allow you to distribute the source or binaries built from it, but will give you the ability to look at the code and make modifications for your own evaluation.

In order to build the source you may receive, you'll need to have Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 and the DirectX 7 SDK installed.

[This message has been edited by Michael Harrison (edited 05-22-2000).]

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Snickers
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posted 05-19- 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snickers   Click Here to Email Snickers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Michael. I know it (the comments) must have grated sometimes. (I know it did with me). No, I am not enough of a programmer to jump in, but I do appreciate the efforts of all involved....

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STef
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posted 05-19- 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for STef   Click Here to Email STef     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would it be possible to receive the NDA by email?
I don't have a fax.

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Michael Harrison
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posted 05-19- 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Harrison   Click Here to Email Michael Harrison     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stephan. At the moment, no as we have to ensure the NDA we receive is the one we sent out.

[This message has been edited by Michael Harrison (edited 05-19-2000).]

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Michael Harrison
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posted 05-19- 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Harrison   Click Here to Email Michael Harrison     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, although you aren't permitted to redistribute binaries, there's nothing (but time) to prevent any change you make from being rolled back into the main source and put out with the FSC patches.
http://www.fightersquadron.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000731.html

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 05-19- 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

OK!!

Thanks a TON man. Thats great stuff.

Actually even the explanation about the transfer of ownership of openplane would have been great.

I thought Parsoft changed its name to Inertia. I didn't know they were seperate companies.

Cool stuff.

Thanks alot.

Spanky

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Nat
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posted 05-19- 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anyone else getting some great feeling of relief??

Gotta say thanks first to MH, for puttin up with our bitching (think I've bitched with the best of em sometimes) And for going as far as he could to get this done.

Thanks MH

~Nat~

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Laika 801
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posted 05-20- 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Spyder
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posted 05-20- 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ummm will Borland c++ builder be ok? As far as I know it is more ansi compliant than Vc is and I'm biased too!
If not, someone grab me Vc real fast!

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DanW
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posted 05-20- 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DanW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MH, would you consider e-mailing the NDA so a person could print it, then fax it back to you?

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Lothar
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posted 05-20- 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lothar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you don't have a fax machine, try http://www.efax.com/ You can send and receive faxes through email. My friend uses it and is pretty happy with it.

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Michael Harrison
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posted 05-20- 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Harrison   Click Here to Email Michael Harrison     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DanW/Stef...

At the moment, fax is the only way to go. Once we can convert the NDA to PDF format we'll be able to email it, but not yet.

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charmstar
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posted 05-20- 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmstar   Click Here to Email charmstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you say that the code will be given out on a case by case basis, does that mean you only want a couple of people to have access to it?
I'm wondering because I'm curious to look at the AI code in particular, but I mostly have programming experience in VB, and not much in C. So, I wouldn't want to take away from those who stand a good chance of making really positive contributions to the product, when I just want to understand a small piece of code from a design point of view.

charm

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weasel
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posted 05-20- 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have C++ 6.0 and DirectX 7.0a on my home machine. I have a fax/modem but I do not know what DirectX 7 SDK is. I am like charmstar in that I would like to look at the code but do not think I could help out much. What would it take??? Thanks...

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Michael Harrison
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posted 05-22- 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Harrison   Click Here to Email Michael Harrison     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As it turns out, we can email the NDA's to people.

We can export to a PDF now and all you have to do is sign and send it back.

From the questions I've received, it's important that I also mention that if you don't have a specific purpose for evaluating the code, there's really not much point in looking at it.

Since you'll be under NDA, you can't use what you find for other purposes, so just seeing how we do things could actually be detrimental if you then go on to use what you find, somewhere else.

The main reason we're making this available is so that people who have shown the ability and desire to work with OpenPlane have greater exposure to the engine and can add to it for the benefit of all.

At any rate, for those people without fax access, there is another avenue open.

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weasel
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posted 05-22- 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks MH.

POWER TO THE OPEN PLANE PEOPLE!

weasel...

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Bryan Russell
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posted 05-22- 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bryan Russell   Click Here to Email Bryan Russell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
weasel,

You can get the DirectX SDK from
http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/downloads.asp

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weasel
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posted 05-23- 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the link Brian...
weasel...

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