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JT
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posted 02-27- 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JT   Click Here to Email JT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone know how far the human eye should be able to see on a clear day?
In other words, at what distance should planes (the lowest detail lods) become visible?

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Jaguar
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posted 02-27- 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaguar   Click Here to Email Jaguar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats a tough question. It TOTALLY depends on the size of the object. Eg, I can see the rocky mountains clearly from my house, yet I live 100 Km away from them. What you could do to determine this, would be to drive down a LONG stretch of highway, and see when the oncoming cars become visiable........ I would guess that (depending on the pilots eyesight) 2Km would be an accurate distance for the plane to be visiable.

The best thing to do, would be to try to find a fighter pilot's training manual...... something of that sort.

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Jaguar
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[This message has been edited by Jaguar (edited 02-27-2000).]

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Sv
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posted 02-27- 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can see the stars on a clear night...

-Sv

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Pang
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posted 02-27- 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pang   Click Here to Email Pang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I can see for miles, and miles, and miles, and miles and miles".

Couldn't help it, the song just popped into my head.

Pang

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Tailslide
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posted 02-27- 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Nooo.... now it's in my head too

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Jaguar
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posted 02-27- 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaguar   Click Here to Email Jaguar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as Nelson would say:
HA HA

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Mk10 225th
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posted 02-27- 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mk10 225th   Click Here to Email Mk10 225th     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my favorites, by that great British ace, Peter "Birdman" Townsend.

Mk10=225th=

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Ronin
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posted 02-27- 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronin   Click Here to Email Ronin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Boy JT!! This thread sure wandered!!! hehehe

<... miles and miles and miles...>

Oh no! Make that tune stopp!!!!

Ronin

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Stark
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posted 02-28- 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On a truly clear day (ie. no pollution) you can see a small AC (like a Cessna) from as far out as 4.5 to 5 miles from a control tower. But you have to know where it should be to find it. For a B-17 sized plane it would be practical to see it at 5.5 to 6 miles and identify it at about 3.

This is by no means scientific - just my observations from hanging out at a control tower (my sister was an air traffic controller - she worked tower at Sacramento International Airport).

-Stark

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 02-28- 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here..

Those #s sound like a good start. Theirs probly more data out there somewhere.

Whats your plan JT?

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Smokey
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posted 02-29- 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smokey   Click Here to Email Smokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recall reading somewhere that WWI pilots
could spot a plane at 3 miles. I think it
might be from the book "No Parachute" by
Arthur Lee. I can't varify that because I
don't have the book anymore.

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Mighty
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posted 02-29- 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mighty   Click Here to Email Mighty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In Yeager's book he stated a couple of times that he and his squad mate (Bud Anderson? I'm bad with names) both had exceptional eyesight and could see formations of fighters at about 40 miles. Even when told where to look, most of the rest of the squad couldn't see them until 10 miles. Which implies that without guidance a fighter-sized plane should become visible to the average pilot at something less.

So Stark's experience of spotting a Cessna-sized plane at 6 miles seems to fit Yeager's anecdotal account pretty closely.

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DanW
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posted 03-03- 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DanW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stark's assesment is right on. As a former USAF controller, I've seen a lot of different aircraft from a tower. If you know where to look you can see a F16 at about 5-6 miles, depending on the weather and your eyesight.

For SDOE, I would set it at about 4 miles..and experiement from there.

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Mighty
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posted 03-03- 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mighty   Click Here to Email Mighty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that at altitude one can see farther. There's a lot less dust and moisture at 15,000 feet than on the ground.

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Jerry
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posted 03-03- 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Four sure beats the two we have now, at least in 800X600.

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