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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 02-23- 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here..

Hi guys. I was thinking with tailslids Yak coming along so nicely and the nations project near release i was hoping some of you artists could wipe up some Soviet skins for some of the planes we all ready have that they used under the Lend Lease program.

I can't remember which planes they used but it seems like every time i read about a plane they mention i was used by the Soviets too.

Would be pretty cool to add a new nation and aready have a bunch of planes and skins to use. Maybe we could start using some of those winter terrains online and get some easter front going.

How cool would that be?

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 02-23- 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

Guys? Ya there?

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JT
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posted 02-24- 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JT   Click Here to Email JT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I know that the Soviets received about 200 Thunderbolts. I can't find any images of how they were painted though.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 02-24- 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

K well i'll try to find some more info. IT will be really cool to have a whole Soviet airforce.

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Laika 801
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posted 02-24- 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this in the net:

http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook/VVS/vvscolor.html

http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook/VVS/Articles/grinberg_b25.html

"...VVS Camouflage:
As with all VVS camouflage schemes, there were never any "official" templates to make up a pattern, nor did most factories even employ templates (of any kind). Most schemes were in fact applied manually with a spray gun-- in some cases with great artistry and skill, and in other cases demonstrating neither of these attributes. Individuality was rampant, and some factory employee's schemes are so distinctive that they stand out in comparison to work by any other person, and 50 years after the fact can be traced to a single worker (the wonderful camouflage patterns of Nadia Bukhanova are an example of this condition, her 'tiger-stripe' and other beautifully meandering schemes are entirely distinctive).
Rather than as a template, it is useful to think of VVS color patterns as a "theme". The color/pattern application would be similar over a block of machines, but rarely an exact copy of any other aircraft. Some features of a camouflage theme would be consistent, some would evolve over time in a linear way, and some elements were entirely the preference of the person spraying the machine. As well, different factory personnel were liable to have diverging opinions about the most suitable pattern, and in some cases even the most suitable color application. In addition to all this, some blocks of machines were completed at the factories intended for use on disparate Fronts, and in those cases they might be finished with a color scheme and pattern appropriate for that area, in contrast to the more typical theme currently in use at the factory..."

Also I know that there is a book in our university library called "lend-lease blabla" that covers this and it should have many(some?) pics of foreign build planes used in the VVS. So if someone wish it I could scan the images...

LK out-.

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Tailslide
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posted 02-24- 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

They had some Mk V spits and some mustangs (not sure which variant)

TS

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Laika 801
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posted 02-24- 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and Mosquitos; not the B17...

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Laika 801
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posted 02-24- 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky - did you need some images ? or not ?

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 02-24- 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

THat would be great Laika 801. I think adding a Totally new Country to the game will be really cool. And won't even be that hard since they used alot of allied planes. We can use those to fill the ranks at first until more Soviet planes are make. Sorry about forgetting that your making a plane also.

This will be so cool.

Also you guys know. In a move to prompt more Soviet planes being built i put up more Sov cutaway pics on my site. Now they are.

Yak 3 Yak 9 and Mig 3. I can add even more. But i'm lookingfor some bombers.

Hey Laika I just found the cutaway of the plane your building I-16 It will be added to my site soon. I'll let you guys know when.


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Laika 801
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posted 02-24- 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you kidding ??? You got a cutaway drawing for the I-16 and didnīt tell me that ? Oh man !!!

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 02-24- 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

It Should be added by this weekend sometime.

Goto my site and check out how they look and let me know what you think.

http://www.thot.net/~verge/cutaway/cutaway.htm

It looks like i need to add more Axis planes.

hehe

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 02-24- 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SPanky here...

Yeah we will need the images. NOt me since i don;t know how to make skins but i'm sure we can convince some of the painters to make some for us.

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DanW
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posted 02-24- 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DanW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Soviet T-Bolt idea is good. But like JT said, we would need a half assed picture of what one looked like.

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DanW
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posted 02-24- 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DanW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
shit, found this at the same site....no p47 though

http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook/VVS/ModelGallery/

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 02-24- 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here..

Seems like they used mostly planes we don't have made yet.

P47
p39
p40

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Whirlwind
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posted 02-24- 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
B-25
A-20
A-26
...

Just had to add the heavies to it .

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 02-24- 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

Yeah it seems that most of the allied planes they used we still have to add to the game.

Sucks ass. but when we do it will be cool.

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DanW
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posted 02-24- 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DanW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i didnt see the p47 there

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 02-24- 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here..

It was. Its in one of my books too. 203 of them.

Bet ya they looked cool.

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Tailslide
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posted 02-24- 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

What's wrong with the spit and the mosquito?

Check it out: http://hep2.physics.arizona.edu/~savin/ram/spitfire-5.html http://hep2.physics.arizona.edu/~savin/ram/spitfire-9.html http://hep2.physics.arizona.edu/~savin/ram/mosquito-4.html


Bryans hurc could do this too: http://hep2.physics.arizona.edu/~savin/ram/hurricane-2d.html http://hep2.physics.arizona.edu/~savin/ram/hurricane-2c.html

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Tailslide
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posted 02-24- 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

[This message has been edited by Tailslide (edited 02-24-2000).]

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 02-24- 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here..

K well one of you skinners get on this.

Please?

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DanW
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posted 02-24- 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DanW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if you have a pic of the p47 in a russian scheme, please post it here. i will do one for the p47d.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 02-24- 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

Great. I can't wait to see that.

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DanW
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posted 02-24- 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DanW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
find me a pic of a p47 bro...

and it will be done eventually.

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Rattler
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posted 02-24- 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rattler   Click Here to Email Rattler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All American aircraft sold to Russia during WWII that I've seen had the basic Frog Green paint job with the Red Stars........ no cammo.

Rattler

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JG5Jerry
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posted 02-25- 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JG5Jerry   Click Here to Email JG5Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AFAIK, the Soviets had less than a handful of Mossies. What about their version of the Hurricane (i.e. with better armour and armament)? Their version of the P-39 was also improved.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 02-25- 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

JG5Jerry Better then nothing though. It would just be cool to have a couple planes when we add it as a country and this is a quick way to fill it out a bit while still being histroicaly correct.

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