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Topic: bf 109D
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STef_EAF329
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posted 02-08- 02:55 PM
   
As we have the Emil version, couldn't someone tweak it a little to transform it into a Dora version?
It would be a really good opponent against the Spitfire Mk Ia.
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Yardstick
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posted 02-08- 05:25 PM
As far as I am aware the 109D was not in active service by the time of the Battle of Britain. It was used in limited role in Poland and possibly during Opperation Case Yellow. The E-3 (almost identical to the E-4 save for some differences in the upper canopy glazing) seems to have been the most common Emil to participate in the BoB and a typical Spitfire opponent was the 1a.To convert the E to D is a massive amount of work: 3D model, texturing, textures and FM - maybe 50 hours. Not one for me I'm afraid. I think 4 109s are enough for now  ------------------
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Razer
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posted 02-08- 06:02 PM
5, My E-7 will be updated once i get a chance. Raz IP: Logged |
Yardstick
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posted 02-08- 06:38 PM
Razer, the E-7 was essentially idential in performance and looks to the E-4. The only real differences being the pointed spinner and the aircraft's capacity to carry ordinance (something we have given the E-4).------------------
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Pachy
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posted 02-09- 02:19 AM
The D was also used during the Spanish civil war. Spanish nationalist pilots called the Emil "tripala" because former variants had a 2-propeller blade.------------------
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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 02-09- 05:42 AM
Spanky here... Yardstick. I guess if he has the time he mine aswell do it. One more option and it keeps all those really picky people off our back. hehe Every varient of any planes we make can't be a bad thing. IP: Logged |
STef_EAF329
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posted 02-09- 06:18 AM
There doesn´t seem to be so many differences between E and D version.
As far as I have seen:
- exhaust pipes
- a small piece of fuselage or wingThis is whyI proposed to make it. ------------------
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juzz
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posted 02-09- 06:28 AM
And a 2-bladed prop, different nose shape, cockpit canopy shape, cockpit interior...IP: Logged |
Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 02-09- 06:54 AM
well that sounds like enough reasons for someone who was already motivatied to try it. pointed spinner and the aircraft's capacity to carry ordinance - exhaust pipes
- a small piece of fuselage or wing 2-bladed prop, different nose shape, cockpit canopy shape, cockpit interior all of a sudden that looks like alot of work. hehe
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Yardstick
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posted 02-09- 07:17 AM
My view is if you can do it, go ahead but stick to these 2 rules:1) if you are going to start it, do it properly and I mean properly - no hacks. The D is as different from the E, as the E is from the K (that's a lot by the way). 2) add value, if a plane is no different from others save for a few superficial changes, what's the point. I don't think you appreciate the work that goes into these aircraft. It is not a case if tweaking details like the Spit V to Spit Ia conversion (that's no slur on Tailslide because that conversion will have taken many hours - the FM especially). The Emil was completely rebuilt from the Gustav, in fact the only common elements are the tail and rear fuselage. The texture mapping was completely re-done (you change the 3DO the mapping goes to pot). The cockpits were rebuilt - instruments re-positioned, deleted/added, new textures and reflections were painted. New skins - the first one on a new model can take up to 7 hours (usually in one sitting, no breaks). FM - a dark art that can eat up many hours. In summary this is a major undertaking. ------------------
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mposis
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posted 02-09- 09:33 AM
Yardstick,I never heard of these rules before. All the planes(Dora, 109s, Zero) I made were hacked from the FW190A. Somebody else did the unhacking for me.
Stef,
Just do it. If people like it they will fix it for you.
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Pachy
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posted 02-09- 10:21 AM
Do you guys have the same definition of hacking  ?IP: Logged |
Yardstick
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posted 02-09- 11:08 AM
Bad choice of word. For 'rules' read 'personal goals'.Of course if you want to play arround with something go ahead but it never hurts to aim high. Try it you will surprise yourself with the results. IP: Logged |
DanW
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posted 02-09- 11:54 AM
I think people should all do whatever pleases them. OpenPlane is for 'you', not 'us'. Thats the beauty of it. If Pete Hawk wants to make a flying toilet bowl, so be it. I'm pretty sure that someone will soon come up with a way to make it flush. That's whats great about SDOE. People would have abondoned this sim a long time ago if no one said, "I wonder if I can do this?" I personally haven't flown SDOE in about 9 or so months, but I keep coming back to it because it allows me to do something I love to do - paint. My favorite WWII sim is (ducking) EAW, but with 8 bit graphics and no way to change that, I can't do anything more than just play it. SDOE allows us to change some of the things we don't like. As long a person is happy with what they do, then they have every right to keep doing it. The good thing is that people share what they do. For example, I am currently hacking the P51. When I am done, it will have about 6 tiffs, hi res nose art, new sounds, and a new prop. Sounds ludicrous to some, but I'm doing it for me, because I want to. It's a lot of work, I had to learn Max and OPS, and it will take about a month to paint. I'm sure others will want it as well. Some people play this game to fly, some to fight, and me, I like screenshots. The beauty of SDOE and OpenPlane is that you can do whatever the heck you want- even flying toilet bowls. (no slam on pete-justing using him as an example) IP: Logged |
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