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Sv
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posted 12-02- 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, just cosmetic, but what an improvement!

It was my fist time mapping a texture, so there is quite a large room for imrovement


http://www.schoolmusic.com/chickencoop/se5a/index.htm

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Jeeves
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posted 12-02- 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Sv-That looks like a painting!! Nice work!!

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Raider
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posted 12-02- 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raider   Click Here to Email Raider     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is one of the best WW 1 fighters I have ever seen.

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Michael
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posted 12-02- 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael   Click Here to Email Michael     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking sharp SV!

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nuum
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posted 12-03- 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nuum   Click Here to Email nuum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sv,

Beautiful !
The colourful flying machines.
We have to put a link to the screenshots. They wonŽt believe.

downloading ...

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Spyder
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posted 12-03- 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Sv, that's terific work.
Better sign that contract to do more planes for MH's next sim I reckon!
Excellent work on the documentation too, invaluable for the inept such as myself.
cheers

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nuum
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posted 12-03- 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nuum   Click Here to Email nuum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sv,

IŽve found a very good SE5a screenshield image.
IŽll send it to you this night.

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Sv
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posted 12-03- 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great Nuum! I was having trouble determining the correct size - plus I have notices that it verries widely from one SE5a to another...

Also, if you find a better intrument oanel picture send it to me - a diagram would be best. I did get the ones you sent, but I am still having trouble finding out what needs to be where. How does the throttle control work? Where is it? I want to animate it along with the control stick

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Bradburger
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posted 12-03- 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bradburger   Click Here to Email Bradburger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heck. I'm speechless! Great work SV. Many thanks for your great tutorial. Invaluble stuff. If I ever start a sim company then i know where to come!

Cheers

Bradburger

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JT
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posted 12-03- 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JT   Click Here to Email JT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, a friend of mine has been trying to get me into WWI AC, but I've just never really connected with that world, eventhough I admire the planes greatly. After taking some of these planes for a spin, I have to say I'm hooked. The dogfights at those speeds are VERY interesting and the planes are almost too beautiful to shoot at! In one fight, however, I saw an SE above and ahead of me get blown up. Smoking debris was showering down on my plane... beautiful! I should have taken a screenshot.

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roadtoad
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posted 12-03- 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadtoad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! That's the finest looking earlybird I've ever seen in a sim!
And I envy you your energy! Quite enough to just learn and do it - but to document it is awesome stuff. ..As its kicking my butt, I'm looking forward to reading how you build a pit. -rt mike

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Sv
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posted 12-03- 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well roadtoad, if we really want a good cockpit we need join JT's freind in trying push WWI on JT! He is the cockpit master!

I'll even find all the info and screenshots you could ask for! (wink, wink ...)

Well at least you wouldn't have to worry about that complicated reflecting canopy

Actually roadtoad, I started the SE5a just to learn as a beginner and document the process so that others could learn... I am suprised to find out how do-able it is, thanks to Hippie's builder/extarctor and Bryan's kick-ass OpenPlane Studio - you want to talk about energy? OpenPlane Studio is very user friendly AND has great documentation of its own! It is truly a first class application...

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AE71_INFERNO
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posted 12-03- 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AE71_INFERNO   Click Here to Email AE71_INFERNO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1 word, WOW ( ok so maby its not a word )

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Pete Hawk
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posted 12-03- 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sv,

That is gorgeous! Excellent job! It's just so darned inspiring to me, really. Makes me think, hmmm, what could I start working on?

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nuum
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posted 12-03- 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nuum   Click Here to Email nuum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sv,

I think that we can start the WWI Site.
The masters are looking at the canvas.

Did you receive the cockpits ?

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silas
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posted 12-05- 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silas   Click Here to Email silas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Took her for a test fly tonight. A Sweet Treat!

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nealg
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posted 12-05- 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nealg   Click Here to Email nealg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It really is nice, isn't it?? And so much fun to....

Whoa!! I almost complimented him....whew!!

Hey, I feel like Fred Flintstone in this thing!!!

Whaddaya mean, I look like him, too???

Gettin better and better Sv....and the documentation is fantastic, even if a bit over my head. Ok...a curb is over my head. Sheesh...I could get remarried if I wanted insults!

More?? More???

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Sv
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posted 12-05- 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stop, Stop! Nealg, you are killing me heheheh

Ever wonder why I like the mossie so much nealg? Because REAL airplanes are made from wood!

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ArthurQ
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posted 12-05- 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArthurQ   Click Here to Email ArthurQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got home from a long business trip and read some posts about your SE5a and thought I'd give it a whirl. I spent a good portion of Saturday just WWI dogfighting between the SE5a and the Fokker-and I LOVED IT! Everything everyone's been saying is true. Dogfighting at those speeds and with that performance is sooo fun. I never thought I'd be interested in WWI airplanes-boy was I wrong. The graphics in SDOE just make this WWI thing happen for me.
Thanks SV for the great job. What a beauty that airplane is.

AQ

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Loco
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posted 12-06- 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Loco   Click Here to Email Loco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sv,

The plane is beautiful! Great job.
Now to fly a WWI plane is getting very nice.
I played WWI planes with AW3 and RB, but with SDOE....is another world. Pretty good.

Thanks.

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Codfish
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posted 12-06- 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Codfish   Click Here to Email Codfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SV,

I really like your plane! My compliments, keep up the good work,

Codfish

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Yardstick
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posted 12-07- 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yardstick   Click Here to Email Yardstick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SV, I just flew a few missions with the SE5a and loved it. My complements - keep up the good work. I particularly enjoyed sight seeing low and slow, something you can't do in my heavy metal. Roll on the WWI planepack.

Just a pointer on the sound files I noticed they are 22Hz stereo. You could cut that down to 8Hz mono without degrading the sound too much - 8Hz mono is what Meatwater used and I did for my 109 sounds. Worth bearing in mind for a future planepack.

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Sv
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posted 12-08- 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the sound tip Yardstick.

I stole the sounds from red baron 3D. I plan on making a trip to Rhinebeck and sample my own sounds. I think they have different planes there over time - I need to go when I can get a good in-line sound. I could get a pretty good one form the Fokker DVII. The Camel is always there I think, as well as the Fokker DR1.

How much does sound file size affect sim performance? Is it a memory thing, a file size thing, or a FPS thing?

Thanks!

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Yardstick
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posted 12-08- 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yardstick   Click Here to Email Yardstick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi SV,

I would have thought that the size of the file will have some effect on game speed (simply put the larger the file, the larger the demands placed on the CPU). I'm sure the size impacts on RAM throughput as well. As far as the impact on FPS is concerned I'm not sure.

You may have problems getting your enginerun samples to sound right in SDOE. The game engine modulates the frequency of the sound to represent the rpm of the engine. I have tried to insert genuine samples of the 109 engine into the game and it ends up sounding like a lawnmower on speed. I suspect that the sample is modulated up and down from mid throttle position. Therefore if the engine sounds correct at 50% rpm it will sound high pitched at 100% and way too slow at 5%. You may have to experiment with this. I haven't got the sound editing software to do this. So I went with Meatwater's Spit enginerun.wav file in the end for the bf109 (the engine start and end samples are genuine though).

BTW. I have a nice clean recording of the start-up, run and shut-down sequence for the Brisfit if youare interested.

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nuum
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posted 12-08- 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nuum   Click Here to Email nuum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>BTW. I have a nice clean recording of the start-up, run and shut-down sequence for the Brisfit if youare interested.

Yardstick,

What's the size of the brisfit's sound?
I am interested.

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Sv
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posted 12-08- 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Roland Vs-1680 multi-track 24 bit digital workstation. I can take it on location and record sounds of high quality. I can re-sample this sound for any frequency. I can also do fine EQ adjustments, multi-band compression, and harmonic enhancement, etc.

I am used to recording music though, I am not a sound effects guy. I would like to fool with it - I noticed that even the Red Baron 3D sounds seemed to low, maybe I will increase the sample frequency...

One thing that bothers me most about the engine sound in SDOE is the RPM setting. It seems that the RPM is only based on throttle setting, not prop speed. In other words if you dive whith throttle in idle, the prop will not windmill.

Anyone else notice this?

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Yardstick
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posted 12-08- 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yardstick   Click Here to Email Yardstick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SV the Brisfit sounds are a track on a CD of Aero sound I have. I can record it as an MP3 file and send it to you.

If you have the kit, maybe you could try and do something with the DB605 (bf109G) recording I have. It's an external recording but with a little work I'm sure you could get it sounding about right.

I agree about the Se5a sounds (amplitude rather than frequency though). I used a simple wave editor to boost the volume by 50% after I had converted it to 8Hz mono.

[This message has been edited by Yardstick (edited 12-08-1999).]

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Sv
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posted 12-08- 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds good Yardstick!

You can send any files of interest to:
sean@schoolmusic.com

Thanks!
-Sv

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