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Smokey Cadet |
Looks like an Enron big shot decided to bump himself off (suposedly). He had been co- operating with authorities and was due to testify before congress shortly. I think we better investigate Bush to see if he was in any way involved. After all republicans accused the Clintons of being involved in Foster's death. IP: Logged |
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3dp Cadet |
Of course it's ludicrous, but so was Foster being bumped off. It'll be nice seeing the shoe on the other foot though! My guess is that if Bush ever addresses it directly, he'll do "the angry thing" he does when info is leaked to the press. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Jerry Pilot |
Maybe he gave up on the corrupt society we live in Smokey. Smokey, you hear? Smokey, maybe he became as cynical as you and did the only thing he could to end his misery. Give you any ideas Smokey? What's another late term abortion? IP: Logged |
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Smokey Cadet |
Nah, I think he was going to finger Bush in the Enron scandle and Bush had him bumped off. Now Jerry, if I went and bumped myself off [This message has been edited by Smokey (edited 01-26-2002).] IP: Logged |
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Jerry Pilot |
Nail Bush in the Enron scandle? Just what is Bush supposed to have done? Accepted campaign contributions? That's illegal? Your boy Joe Lieberman accepted $250,000 from Enron and Anderson over the past 6 years. Why don't you go after him? You and your fellow demagogues keep linking Bush to Enron but you have absolutely nothing to go on but wet dreams. Get a life. There is nothing there! No one can even invent a crime to accuse him of, let alone offer any proof. Just because the last Democrat President was a sleeze doesn't mean it's SOP for all Presidents. Hell, Clinton raised more money renting out the Lincoln bedroom than Bush ever accepted from Enron. I know you don't believe it Smokey, but there are honest people in the world. Don't worry about me, there are plenty of leftests out there to needle. Someone has to challenge their stupidity. IP: Logged |
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DanW Pilot |
Maybe the Enron guy was fucking Jerry's wife too ...and the magic .38 that Jihad Jerry keeps wanting people to kill themselves with was used. IP: Logged |
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Jerry Pilot |
DanWimp, you're just jealous because your wife is so ugly and VD infested that no one will fuck her. She does give a mean blow job though, must have been practicing on the Great Dane after he fucked her. That's one hard up Great Dane. IP: Logged |
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JT Pilot |
>Nail Bush in the Enron scandle? Just what is Bush supposed to have done? Accepted campaign contributions? That's illegal? Your boy Joe Lieberman accepted $250,000 from Enron and Anderson over the past 6 years. Why don't you go after him? Once again, you are getting your news from biased and untrustworthy Conservative news sources like Newsmax. Lieberman accepted $2,500 from Enron... not $250,000. On the issue at large... I'm not ready to say that the Bush administration did something wrong in regards to Enron. The facts aren't in yet. But even if Bush and Cheney did nothing wrong, I will be interesting to see if they knew that Enron employees and shareholders were being taken for a ride and yet did nothing to stop it. IP: Logged |
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Jerry Pilot |
JT, it was Lieberman and his associates, not just Lieberman. So far I came up with this: He received $2,000 from Enron in his 1994 race and $11,500 over the years from Arthur Andersen, the auditing firm accused of concealing Enron's true condition. The New Democrats Network, a group he co-founded, has received $25,000 from Enron. His friend, adviser and former chief of staff, Michael Lewan, received $40,000 in consulting fees from Enron last year and arranged three meetings between Enron officials and Lieberman aides IP: Logged |
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JT Pilot |
>JT, it was Lieberman and his associates, not just Lieberman. Well, not to be argumentative, but if that's what you meant, then that's what you should have said in the first place. >He received $2,000 from Enron in his 1994 race and $11,500 over the years from Arthur Andersen, the auditing firm accused of concealing Enron's true condition. The New Democrats Network, a group he co-founded, has received $25,000 from Enron. His friend, adviser and former chief of staff, Michael Lewan, received $40,000 in consulting fees from Enron last year and arranged three meetings between Enron officials and Lieberman aides Again, not to be argumentative, but that only adds up to $78,500. That's still a lot of money, but not even half of $250,000. Furthermore, I would take the $40,000 to Lewan off the table since that was salary for work he did. IP: Logged |
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Smokey Cadet |
Maybe it just looks like a lot more when it's a democrat sucking on the corporate tit. IP: Logged |
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Jerry Pilot |
JT, the money amounts were from two different sources. I just haven't come up with all the details to the $250,000, only what I posted so far. Doesn't mean it didn't happen. It's still a lot more than your $2,500! Besides, I'm not saying there is anything illegal with it. Just that whatever your wet dreams are telling you about Bush also applies to your guys. Until someone can show a quid pro quo it's no more than business as usual. Both sides accept campaign funds from groups, companies and individuals who agree with them on issues. It's perfectly legal. FYI the Demo's raised more money for the 90 presidential campaign than the Republicans. IP: Logged |
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Smokey Cadet |
67% of Americans believe Bush is either hiding something or lying about his relationship with Enron Corp. (CBS-New York Times) 7 out of 10 believe the accounting practices Looks like the public agrees with me Jerry, [This message has been edited by Smokey (edited 01-27-2002).] IP: Logged |
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Jerry Pilot |
The difference between you and me Smokey is that I still have faith in our system and our leaders. I may not agree with all politicians but I believe the vast majority are honest. The .38 is for suffering people with no hope, like you and the Enron guy. Regarding the poll, what do you expect when every newspaper and TV network (excluding FOX) in the country is trying to torpedo Bush with unfounded accusations and rumors? Most Americans actually believe everything they read and hear from our liberal biased press. Americans have always loved conspiracy theories....so what? A lot of people still believe Elvis is alive, that the moon landings were a hoax and that there are extraterrestials living among us. As I recall 67% believed Clinton when he said "I did not have sex with that woman", because the press believed him. The majority of people also said they wouldn't want Clinton as their neighbor and wouldn't let them date their daughter, but they still voted for him. Actions speak louder than words. Bush's 85% approval is based on his actions. His actions and the truth will ultimately overcome the demagoguery of our left leaning press which is salivating over the imagined ruin of GW. You're grasping at straws Smokey. Enjoy your wet dream. Remember, "Quid Pro Quo" and don't put away your .38 yet. IP: Logged |
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Jerry Pilot |
Also Smokey, AFAIK, it isn't "widespread accounting practices" which led to Enron's downfall. It was dishonest people doing dishonest things, or abusing accepted practices to excess and hiding the fact. There are bad cops and bad Priests too. Are you suggesting an overhaul of police procedures and dismantling the Catholic church? Being on welfare is an "accepted practice" but some people abuse it through fraud. Is welfare fraud "widespread" just because it exists at all? Besides, how many of the 7 out of 10 know didly squwat about "accounting practices" in the first place? And what makes you think my appreciation of polls is "newfound"? IP: Logged |
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Jerry Pilot |
Hey Smokey, here's the latest poll on the subject: "In the USA Today/CNN/Gallup survey, 29 percent said Bush believed he would owe Enron executives special policy treatment in return for campaign contributions; 55 percent believe congressional Democrats felt that way." Looks like most Americans trust you Democrats less than Bush. LOL IP: Logged |
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