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Sv
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posted 08-08- 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where are they? I must say, these guys are going way to easy on G.W. Now I am like the biggest G.W. guy, but he really has been slacking... I really think he looked allot better during the election. Don't get me wrong, he is still my guy, but wow, he really sucks these days. He really does sound like a moron everytime he opens his mouth... and he is not giving any kind of leadership.

If Gore doesn't run, looks like the democrats have job waiting for them... I just hope it is someone good like Kerry.

Why is the liberal press being so easy right now? Do even they want to shed some cynisicm- just for a while?

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Smokey
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posted 08-08- 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smokey   Click Here to Email Smokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's easy. The "liberal press", as you call
them, at the core, are owned by republicans.
Therefore they are not really liberal. Oh
sure, they throw in a little anti-republican
tid-bit once in a while to make it look good
but they will never really dig deap into
any republican shit and find out where the
dirt is.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.
You don't see any poor working slob owning
a newspaper or a television station.

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Jerry
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posted 08-08- 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Smokey, please explain that right-wing conservative extremist newspaper the New York Times.

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JT
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posted 08-08- 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JT   Click Here to Email JT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Generally speaking, I think the American press is way too easy on politicians... well, easy on politicians when it comes to real and important issues... the stuff that doesn't sell soap. On scandals, the press turns into sharks... we all know that.

The British media is much harder on their politicians. I once saw a BBC interview with Tony Blair and it was really interesting to watch the interviewer press Blair every time Blair tried to sidestep a question. He would not let Blair off the hook on anything. When ever Blair said something that was vague or that would contradict past statements, the interviewer would press him on it... repeatedly and for minutes at a time. At one point, it seemed like the entire interview got snagged on one question which the interviewer, not satisfied with Blair's response, kept asking again and again. The interviewer went way past the point of being rude and it was refereshing to watch. The interviewer simply would not accept BS answers. It occured to me that in an interview like that, Dubya would probably have a meltdown... kind of like the meltdown Bush had when that one interviewer was asking him to name the leader of Pakistan, which he could not do... was a fair question and he should have known the answer or at the very least could have handled it better.

I guess the problem is that politicians won't give interviews to people who they think will burn them, so in turn, the interviewers, fearing they won't get the big interviews and someone else will, turn soft... like larry king or something. Why do you think Larry King gets all the big interviews? Is it because he is really great? No, it's because he throws softballs.

[This message has been edited by JT (edited 08-08-2001).]

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Smokey
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posted 08-08- 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smokey   Click Here to Email Smokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jerry, I don't care what newspaper it is.
You don't see them really digging into any
republican shit. I'll give you a good example.
Look at all the shit that was dug up and reported on Clinton. Of course the republicans
helped this along but the news media was
right in there digging.

It comes out that Dan Burton had an affair.
That was about the extent of the news story
too. Dan Burton had an affair. Then it was
dropped and back after Clinton they went.

As JT points out. The press only digs when it
involves scandal and then its usually when
a democrat is at the center of the scandal.
Right now they are too busy worrying about
Condit to bother with the stupid shit Bush
is doing.

They could have dug enough dirt on the Florida
election to still be talking about it but they
let it drop.

[This message has been edited by Smokey (edited 08-08-2001).]

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Jerry
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posted 08-08- 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did Dan Burton have an affair with a member of his staff? Did he have sex in the Oval Office? Did he, on national television, point his finger and declare to the American public that he did not have an affair? Did he lie about it under oath? Does he, as President, represent all Americans?

If the answer to these questions are all "yes" then you are right. He got off easy.

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Smokey
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posted 08-08- 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smokey   Click Here to Email Smokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An affair is an affair. Now it's who your with
that matters? I think it's whether your a
republican or not is what really matters.

No he didn't deny it on national tv or lie
about it under oath, but he didn't get the
chance either did he. Maybe a more liberal
press would have given him that chance.

He represents americans. So now it's "if you
don't represent too many americans it's ok
to be immoral." He's still an elected representative.

Jerry, I really think you better check your
thinking. You easily fall into the typical
republican, hypricritical thinking. As long
as you are a republican anything goes but if
your someone else you better walk the line.

And yes, I am right. Dan Burton should have
been investigated just like Clinton was. Who
knows, maybe he did have an affair with some-
one on his staff. I think affairs are like
potato chips, you don't just have one. Thanks
to the right wing controled media who didn't
follow up on the story we'll never know, will
we?

[This message has been edited by Smokey (edited 08-08-2001).]

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Jerry
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posted 08-08- 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Give me the name of one network or major newspaper reporter who has said that their reporting was edited, censored or factual information witheld by the paper or network owners. In fact, most of the owners are not individuals but thousands of share holders. What do they do, have the share holder's vote on each news story before it's released? Most recently it was the reporter, Dan Rather, who refused to report on the Gary Condit business until CBS told him he had to.

You sound like Hilary and her great right wing conspiracy being the source of the false Lewinski stories. The only way you guys can explain the truth when it puts you in a bad light is to blame it on an evil conspiracy of so-called fat cat Republicans who control America. What a bunch of paranoid nonsense.

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Smokey
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posted 08-08- 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smokey   Click Here to Email Smokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike Dimmick, week tv, Peoria Ill.

He conducted an interview with the CEO of
a company involved in a long labor dispute
with it's union workers. There had been some
divorces and suicides related to the labor
dispute. Dimick asked the CEO if the labor
dispute was worth the divorces and suicides.
The CEO replied "Yes if it meant the company
being globaly competitive and would save jobs."

After the interview the Co. decided that answer
didn't sound very good. They called the station
and asked that it be cut out. Dimick didn't
want to cut it but he was forced by the
station manager. The rumor was that the Co.
threatened to cut off all contact with the
tv station if they didn't cut the comment.

It does happen. If it can happen in a hick
town like this think how it must be over
very important matters.

To our local newspapers credit they did pick
up on the story, verified it and reported it
just as I have told you.

[This message has been edited by Smokey (edited 08-08-2001).]

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Jerry
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posted 08-08- 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Give me the name of one network or major newspaper reporter who has said that their reporting was edited, censored or factual information witheld by the paper or network owners."


Station Manager = Station Owner?

Local Peoria TV station = network?

This is a Republican conspiracy of newspaper and TV owners?

People divorced and committed suicide because the Union wouldn't let them work? Whose fault is that?

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Smokey
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posted 08-08- 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smokey   Click Here to Email Smokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jerry, your too much!!

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Jerry
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posted 08-08- 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're OK too Smokey.

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Todesvogel
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posted 08-08- 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Todesvogel   Click Here to Email Todesvogel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jerry:
People divorced and committed suicide because the Union wouldn't let them work? Whose fault is that?

/crazy-rant-on

[Striking a Company]

It is no one's. Life isn't easy, we're all in it to destroy others in order to make our own way (selfishly). Some can't take the stress of following a path to competitive displacement and destroy themselves rather than push forward.

We're all just nice on the surface, and in our (self-)conscious conscience.

However, only an IDIOT would mention on TV that a company could and would benefit from the deaths of depressed, hard-up, striking workers.

I wouldn't strike this CEO's company, I'd run away screaming from such obvious stupidity.

[Liberal Media]

Liberals are too stupid to cover-up, suppress, or mitigate their mistakes adequately (Clinton). And the Pot-Smoking "liberal" media is too stoned to care enough to ferret out real dirt on (even dumb) Conservatives.

[Rant rant rant]

The Public doesn't really care any more. They are too afraid that the new e[-]conomy will fall through the current floor into the basement.

We've already descended into a mock democracy, like the Pre-Totalitarian germany, Pre-Churchill England. The current chancellor is not really leading, is afraid to. Things are moving forward by back-room deals.

[More media limitations]

There is an entire world that exists in the Classified domain, the Mofia's domain, etc. These worlds are largely impenetrable. Only the dedicated the turncoats and the idiots break through the barriers that separate domains. I find it hard to believe we have any real knowledge of what happens in the impenetrable domains that we unknowingly touch.

/crazy-rant-off

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DanW
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posted 08-15- 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DanW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"He really does sound like a moron everytime he opens his mouth... and he is not giving any kind of leadership."

Goddamn Sv, where were you last November? I told you. The guy is a waste of mass. You conservative guys would have done a lot better to hire an more competent president. This dude is a one-and-out president, like his daddy. Now you'll have to wait 8 or so more years to get back in.

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Jonners
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posted 08-15- 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonners   Click Here to Email Jonners     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'Things are moving forward by back-room deals.' - Since the beginning of time, Todesvogel old bean, always have and always will.
Depressing huh , such is life....sigh...

(I always seem to be..sighing..on this damn page..sigh..!! )

Chin-chin!

[This message has been edited by Jonners (edited 08-15-2001).]

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