posted 03-09- 09:44 AM               

Anyway, what is the deal with Tom Delay... what a crook... Instead of openly and honestly arguing for a pay raise, he trys to slip this $165 per diem proposal under the table... hoping no one would notice. If he thinks that he and his brethren deserve a pay increase (on top of this giant tax cut that his favorite puppet is about to grant him), then he should just say so. Instead, he trys to use this underhanded tactic to slip past the radar. I guess he has to use tactics like this one because he knows that we the people won't go for a Congressional pay raise. We already pay these bozos way too much money and all they do is investigate people.

Meanwhile, every time a minor increase in the minimum wage is proposed, the Republicans are ferociously against it. They fight with everything they got each and every time. Really makes me ill.

posted 03-10- 01:42 PM            

This "under the table" is pretty much the
way republicans have to operate to get their
shit passed. Even the tax cut and the
ergonomics legislation was rush through
under dubious cercumstances.

As a side note I see Bush is into busting
strikes all ready. I thought this guy was
supposed to be a uniter.

posted 03-10- 03:49 PM               

Just more grandstanding in a vain attempt to seem Reaganesque... as though being Reaganesque is a good thing... {puke}

posted 03-11- 02:42 AM               

What fantasy?

Fact: Tom Delay did propose a $165 per diem.

Fact: Dan Burton investigates only Democrats (by the way, I think Dan Burton is mentally unstable, so I don't blame him too much).

Fact: Republicans always fight against minimum wage increases.

Fact: Bush sided with management in a recent labor dispute.

Where is the fantasy, Mirth?

Face it... the only thing you can do is scoff at us because you know that the GOP point of view on these issues is indefensible.

posted 03-11- 02:49 AM               

Don't give me that. I voiced my acceptance of Gore's defeat a long time ago.

My exact words as posted on 12-18-2000 12:44 PM...

"Well, the election was certainly close, but if you consider that fact that Gore should have won by a landslide, I think it's fair to say that Bush won rather definitively. Hate to say that, but that's how I see it."

Here is a link to the thread where that was posted...

http://www.fightersquadron.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000126.html

posted 03-11- 05:57 PM               

You do realize that a lot of people making minimum wage work for small businesses right? A lot of these small businesses can't make it if they have to pay their workers alot.

Now I agree that the minimum wage is absurdly low, but 'tis better to have A job than no job.

posted 03-11- 11:01 PM               

quote:

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Originally posted by Falck:
JT,

You do realize that a lot of people making minimum wage work for small businesses right? A lot of these small businesses can't make it if they have to pay their workers alot.

Now I agree that the minimum wage is absurdly low, but 'tis better to have A job than no job.

If people are valuable theyll be paid better.

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posted 03-11- 11:01 PM            

and being on duty 24/7

throw a TDY in there every 12 months to boot because the military is so short manned.

yeah, those Base exchange privlidges really do add up don't they? besides, don't know when the last time you went to the Px/Bx was, but the prices aren't that much better. Commisary is the same way (you do save on not having to pay taxes though).

also hate to bust your bubble, but you have to pay for your uniforms as well.....even in bootcamp...comes right out of your check.

yeah, they are living the good life in the military........

posted 03-12- 12:43 AM               

Not everyone needs to be making above minimum wage.

Case in point: high-school students

Granted I agree that anyone who is independent of another person's income must have more than minimum wage in order to be able have a place to live, but kids who still live with their parents generally dont need a wage that keeps up with the cost of living.

posted 03-12- 12:47 AM               

Neither situation is intended to support a family in comfort. In the case of the guy in the military, if he has a wife and/or kids he shouldn't join up in the first place. If he does, that's his decision and he should live with it. Neither should he settle for a minimum wage job on the outside if he has a family. The key here is, don't start a family unless you're capable of supporting one. People need to be held accountable for their actions and their choices!

If you start a family after you join the military then Uncle Sam should help you support them at a decent level. Either that or Uncle Sam should let you out to go make a decent living.

posted 03-12- 03:10 AM               

Not sure about that... a lot of kids work to help their parents out. Others work in order to save up for college.

Kids work part time anyway, so it's perfectly reasonable for them to make minimum wage.

Also, kids tend to spend a lot of money, so that's good for the economy.

posted 03-12- 12:41 PM            

2. When I was a private and a PFC my wife
and I would go without milk and drink water
with our meals to save the milk for our son.
That was 32 years ago under Nixon. I don't
think much has changed. Not until I made
spc4 did things get better but it was still
tight.

3. The medical cuts started coming under
George Bush Sr. I know because my boy was in
the Air Force at the time. They started
discouraging personnel from going to the
emergency room. They gave them a book on
emergency first aid. You was supposed to try
the stuff in there before going to emergency.
If you went to emergency and they decided
it wasn't an emergency you could be charged
for it. Even in my time you usually caught a
lot of shit if you went on sick call.