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Stephen
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posted 12-01- 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen   Click Here to Email Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are calling B17II really gay and stupid because the P38 has no gun site then why dont you say fighter squadron is really gay and stupid because the Spitfires Dont even have a mirror and when you move the guns in the B17(not the turrets) they make the same noise. Now you tell me what is BETTER.

I think Both are very good games!!!

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Bulldog2
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posted 12-01- 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bulldog2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Errrr I think you are in for a beating!!!

I really would not call anyone stupid in this forum.

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ArgonV
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posted 12-01- 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didnt say the whole game B-17II is stupid.... Im just saying that some parts are REALLY stupid. (Like the P-38 gunsite not being there)

SDOEs engine cannot handle mirroring. In fact... not too many flight sims can do mirroring. Wonder why that is?

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Stephen
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posted 12-01- 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen   Click Here to Email Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wasent pointing anyone out but i was just saying that the idea of someone not liking a game because it has no gun site is kinda stupid because the game they like has some of the same problems.

anyway why cant most sims have a mirror?

[This message has been edited by Stephen (edited 12-01-2000).]

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Yardstick
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posted 12-01- 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yardstick   Click Here to Email Yardstick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
B-17 is a good game and I want it to be better. Consequently I'm not going to be fobbed off with bullshit excuses.

The only complaint I have with the game (assuming the major issues i.e. CDTs stuttering graphics and the freezing timeskip are patched), is that it is all very familiar. The gameplay is identical to the original and having played that to death about 10 years ago, I have a sense of been there done that.

So to summarise and slip seamlessly into Kyle character: "Stephen what the fuck are you talking about?" If you can't understand the conversations of grown-ups, don't join in.

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Yardstick painted this

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Bulldog2
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posted 12-01- 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bulldog2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TOLD YA

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Stephen
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posted 12-01- 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen   Click Here to Email Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yard stick go ***censored***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

***Moderator: Stephen, there's no need for that kind of juvenile behavior***

[This message has been edited by Mighty (edited 12-01-2000).]

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Private Roger
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posted 12-01- 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Private Roger   Click Here to Email Private Roger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Clearly an English Major.

Stephen, do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

When you have to resort to that type of outburst you lose any credibility you may have ever had.

I think you should go to "time out" and come back here when you think you can talk like an adult.

PR=FC=

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Yardstick
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posted 12-01- 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yardstick   Click Here to Email Yardstick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hehe, well that was a surprise

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wakeup tailgunner
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posted 12-01- 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wakeup tailgunner   Click Here to Email wakeup tailgunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stephen, If you must, go do it in Flamewars.
It's what it's there for.

Otherwise, take a hike.

Allsorts of people of all ages use this forum, and mouthing off like that isn't appreciated.

Hawk...shift this sucker where it belongs!

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Luny
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posted 12-01- 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Luny   Click Here to Email Luny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bombs Away !!!

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Raider
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posted 12-01- 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raider   Click Here to Email Raider     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kids....

Stephen if you are going to flame, post it in the flame war area. Don't worry this will be moved there I assure you.

BTW When you pick on Yardstick you pick on the lot of us. Hope you are up for it

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Stark
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posted 12-01- 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stephen...

To answer your question as to why most sims don't support mirroring... well, it's hard to do it right and can be a signifigant drain on the system. Most renderers aren't very well set up for it and so to keep the frame rates up it is not included.

Luckily for us MH and crew had to do some work for RC Simulator that will get rolled into a future patch for FS... and will allow us to have mirrors. Can you say the same about the lack of a gunsight in one of the user flyable planes in B17? Didn't think so. Perhaps you don't think that having a gunsight is neccesary but it gets damned hard to hit a FW in a fight without one, now doesnt't it? Kinda makes for a huge impact in gameplay if you want to be an escort now doesn't it? In fact it's a whole hell of a lot more impact than the lack of a rear view mirror.

-Stark

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Pete Hawk
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posted 12-01- 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stephen, ditto what Raider said.

btw, I see in your profile you are from BC. British Columbia I take it. Vancouver? I have some relatives there. If you know some Hawk's up there
there's a good chance they are my relatives.

I'm being nice because you DID say you like SDOE, so...

[This message has been edited by Pete Hawk (edited 12-01-2000).]

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Mirthain
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posted 12-02- 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirthain   Click Here to Email Mirthain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, the mirror issue is that doing a mirror with a non 2d renderer is VERY difficult... bear in mind that in CFS2, they still use the primary view as a 2d object. Mirrors on those are basically like any other 2d view, a whole screen that looks a direction. In a true 3d space such as ours, you either have to make a true reflection (Major Pain in the ass) or create a small window that is showing a different camera view.... another big pain in the ass.
That is why you will see mirrors with alot of the older games, but almost none of the 3d cockpit games.
Oh, quick question... did the 38 have a mirror too? They did you know?

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ArgonV
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posted 12-02- 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know for a fact that the P-38Ls didnt have mirrors. (I have rather detailed pics of a P-38Ls cockpit.)

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