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Smokey Pilot	posted 08-15- 03:30 PM In case some didn't notice (and maybe some tried not to notice) this is an election year for President of the United States. A couple of weeks ago we had the republicans trying to put on a new face of compasion, caring and inclusivness. Too bad they didn't fool anybody. We all know their platform consists of the following. 1. Slashing medicare/medicade and torpedoing perscription drugs for seniors while they line the pockets of their corporation buddys with tax breaks, research grants and other forms of corporate welfare. 2. Weakening environmental and OSHA laws to the point where they have little inpact. 3. Dishing out the current budget surplus in the form of tax breaks for their rich buddys. 4. Making it so well to do people with estates worth over 675000 dollars can leave that estate when they die and not pay taxes on it. This week we have the democrats who are rightfully claiming credit for the good economy. It is kinda funny to see them dancing around the fact that they have had an immoral boob in the white house the last 8 years. He's still better than a republican though. The only advice I can offer is what an old man told me when I started working years ago. He said "If you look down on your paycheck and see some other son-of-a-bitch had to sign it for you to get your money then you had better vote democrat." I could only add that I would like to be a republican but I can't afford it. Whether you like the republicans or democrats please vote in Nov., it's the most important thing you will ever be called on to do. [This message has been edited by Smokey (edited 08-15-2000).] IP: Logged
Mighty General	posted 08-15- 03:52 PM Hmm, that's a pretty simple way to look at the world. Remember, that during a good part of the last presidential administration we had a Republican Congress. Also remember that when Clinton got elected he took credit for a booming economy his first year that any rational economist would tell you was a result of policies enacted at least a year before Clinton took office. My take on it would be that Clinton was so busy with his personal scandals that he didn't have time to screw up the country. Your 4) above really bothers me. A person pays half their income to the government when they're alive, yet you think the government is entitled to more than half the rest when they die? Do you have any idea how many small businesses, sometimes with several employees, are ruined and forced to shut down because of estate taxes? Does that sound like a good use for those assets? I have two favorite one-liners that apply to this thread: Republicans complain that big government is corrupt and inefficient, then they get elected and prove it. and Would you trust a politician to run the country? [This message has been edited by Mighty (edited 08-15-2000).] [This message has been edited by Mighty (edited 08-15-2000).] IP: Logged
DanW Pilot	posted 08-16- 12:22 AM Democrats tell you they are gonna raise taxes. Republicans lie and say they won't raise taxes, but they do anyway. The economy is good. Billy G and his evil minions may soon be toppled.... life is good. 2 Things to think about. 1. We are in a social and technological renaissance. The interent has allowed cheap global communication. Stuff like Napster and companies selling your vital info online is a BIG deal. A new economy is emerging right before our eyes. No longer will most of the old style business tactics allow corporate greed to rule over the masses. We must be careful to not let politicians or big business ruin the internet. 2. The military is in bad shape. Whether you know it or not, the military sucks. The Air Force is offering record enlistment bonuses...some up to 50 grand, just to keep people. I'm not talking about pilots either...im talking about everyone. I turned down a nice bonus a few years back..everyone I know in the Air Force has been offered a bonus to reinlist. The military sucks now, and isnt getting any better. Too many TDY's and doing too much with too little people. These people will all vote republican. Ethics in the White House isn't really an issue (at least not for me). It's how the new technology and global community will be held together. The economy rules right now.....let's see how long we can keep it this way. IP: Logged
Smokey Pilot	posted 08-16- 06:36 PM Mighty, To me it is pretty simple. It's been my experience (52 years worth) that congress doesn't really matter. It's usually controlled by a few votes either way and they end up doing basically nothing. It's the president and his ability to inspire the American people that really leads to policies being instituted. It has never failed during my lifetime, when a republican is president you have poor economy, layoffs and the gutting of labor laws and OSHA laws. All of this, of course helps their rich buddys. When a democrat is in the white house you have a good economy, and jobs for anyone who wants one. Dan W I cannot disagree with anything you said. Wheather you like the republicans or democarats please be sure to vote in Nov. It's the most important thing you can do as a citizen. [This message has been edited by Smokey (edited 08-16-2000).] IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 08-16- 07:14 PM Yeah, that Jimmy Carter economy was really something, wasn't it. Boy, I sure miss that 13% inflation rate and the 17% prime interest rate. Those were the good old days! At least until Reagan came along and spoiled it all with the longest sustained economic growth this country had ever seen (up until then). Of course he had to cut the inflation rate and lending rates in half to do it, but hell, we all have to make sacrifices don't we? I guess your lifetime doesn't include those 12 years, eh Smokey? Isn't senility a terrible thing! IP: Logged
Smokey Pilot	posted 08-16- 08:55 PM Jerry, What growth during the Reagan years?? You must have been on a different planet than me. All I remember is layoffs, union busting and hard times for everyone except the very rich. Oh yeah don't forget a little law breaking thrown in with Iran Contra. As far as the longest sustained growth in our history I think you got Reagan mixed up with Bill Clinton. [This message has been edited by Smokey (edited 08-16-2000).] IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 08-16- 09:21 PM Go to any government record of the Gross National Product. It will show a sustained quarter to quarter growth throughout the last six Reagan years. Longest in US history until the 90's. It took him two years to fix the mess Carter left. On my planet we base our opinions on fact not one-sided erroneous propaganda. How about your's? I see you fail to mention the inflation rate and interest rates during the Carter administration. To say nothing of his desimation of the military while he was in office. IP: Logged
rattlesnake Pilot	posted 08-17- 06:17 AM (99.9%) Democrats = Crooks (99.9%) Republican Politicians = Crooks (99.9%) Everyone else in Politics = Crooks For anyone to say that a certain party doesnt bow down to big business and line their own pockets is full of shit. Its all about money. ------------------ -=BAB=- Rattlesnake Bad Ass Bulldogs http://www.oldpostoffice.com/badass [This message has been edited by rattlesnake (edited 08-17-2000).] IP: Logged
Mirthain Pilot	posted 08-18- 04:29 PM And I am sorry but any party that want's to rewrite the constitution and take away my right to protect myself on the premise that the police can do it can bite me. Add that to the Tipper Gore and Liebewitz's(Or however he spells it) campaign against what they consider to be "Damaging media". Democrats are just as 2 faced.... First amendment for burning the flag, but don't watch Saving Private Ryan.. it's violent. Democrats are the biggest facists and socialist pigs in this country. Every time one of them opens thier mouths I get flashback's to the 3rd Riech and Stalinist speeches. I am not a republican, but I have fewer problems with them then the revamped socialist teachings of the democrats. Mirthain=FC= BTW.... Clinton took credit for every decision that congress made... a REPUBLICAN congress. BTW, Congress really does implement the policy..... above all congress does, but congress is mostly controlled by the parties. IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 08-21- 07:06 PM Spanky here... BLah blah, its all bullshit. Lets just say its not even a democracy anymore. IP: Logged
Lothar Pilot	posted 08-21- 10:08 PM Mirthain, I'm sorry you find yourself in so many gun battles. That must be rough . The Republicans aren't exactly looking out for you either. They want to get rid of the First, the Second (isn't encryption considered a munition?), the Fourth, the Fifth, the Sixth, the Eighth, the Ninth and the Tenth Ammendments. In fact, the Republicans are pretty much against the entire Bill of Rights. IP: Logged
Mk10 225th Pilot	posted 08-22- 04:07 PM Hey Lothar, if big business is in charge, who the hell needs a Bill of Rights anyway, besides a bunch of whining knee-jerk liberals who want to hand out hard-earned money to minorities and tree-huggers? ------------------ Mk10 Maj=225th= IP: Logged

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