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Jerry
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posted 01-22- 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
K-Mart filed for bankruptcy today, I guess they didn't contribute enough to the Republicans. Wait....Enron contributed a lot to Republicans and they went bankrupt too. Maybe K-Mart gave too much and that's why they went bankrupt, like Enron.

Help me here Smokey, what causes bankruptcy...giving too much or too little to Republicans? Does buying Republicans cause the problem, or not buying them?

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Sv
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posted 01-23- 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well K-Mart gave to the republicans... but since republicans only screw things us they botched the corruption.

And we all know that when a corporation fails only the employees suffer and the owners and execs get a windfall.

Seems like every corporation should be doing this. And we all should be investing every penny in the stock market because the owners never suffer... they only profit. The rich get richer...

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Smokey
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posted 01-23- 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smokey   Click Here to Email Smokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I'd say bankruptcy is caused by mis-
management. Having a bad economy that goes
with a republican administration doesn't
help either. Didn't republicans make it harder
for individuals to file bankruptcy? From the
looks of things they didn't do the same
for their corporate buddies. Wanna know one
thing? When it's all said and done the top
officers of K-mart will still be rich.

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Jerry
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posted 01-23- 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if you're rich to start with, why would losing your job suddenly make you poor?

Smokey, I'm curious. Please define rich for me. Is it yearly income? How much? Or is it net worth? How much? Or is it just anyone who has more than you?

You still didn't answer my original question. If making contributions to campaigns "buy" politicians how come these companies are going bankrupt and not getting government bailouts? What exactly did the contributions "buy" them? Especially if, as you say, the Republicans control the economy to the extent that just being in office causes recessions.

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Lothar
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posted 01-23- 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lothar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The insiders DO make a lot of money! Stockholders lost a lot in the dotcom bubble and in Enron, but tens of thousands of VC's, company executives and other insiders sold their dogfood.com stocks when they were at $130/share and thier (the VC and finacial media's) hype machine was still going full steam.
It was still the job of the stockholders to invest responsibly, diversify, and not tie up money in bad ideas, but it isn't true to say that a companies executives lose in a bankruptcy. Niel Bush for instance did quite well.

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DanW
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posted 01-23- 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DanW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
everyone at kmart must be fucking jerry's wife too...good, i need a break

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DanW
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posted 01-23- 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DanW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
shit, i bet you even jerry is fucking jerry's wife

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Jerry
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posted 01-23- 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dan, too bad your wife is so ugly that no one fucks her but the dogs and pigs.

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Fox Mulder
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posted 01-24- 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fox Mulder   Click Here to Email Fox Mulder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please Ladies!
You must have surffering the effects from nervous gases spread over the US cities by black helicopters! Be cold girls!
-Do you agree Scully?

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Fox Mulder
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posted 01-24- 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fox Mulder   Click Here to Email Fox Mulder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And about the fuck question -
quote:
"Are even better share a candy, to eat shit alone" - Confucious

-Do you agree Scully?

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Smokey
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posted 01-24- 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smokey   Click Here to Email Smokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rich is anyone with more money than me. I
have no problem with this. Greedy rich are
those who make their money by shady or
outright illegal means. These are the ones
I have trouble with and I think there are
a lot of them.

If you want to know what campaign money
buys, see the post in Jade's Playpen. It may
not get you out of bankruptcy but it can
sure make life a hell of a lot easier for
you.

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Jerry
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posted 01-24- 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read the list in Jade's Playpen. Are you saying that all those actions were the result of payoffs rather then a reflection of political philosophy? So, to you, every bill and executive action is the result of a payoff, right? Does this apply to Republican actions only and not Democrats? Are you saying that all pro-labor bills are the result of Union payoffs. How about civil rights legislation, who pays whom for that?

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Smokey
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posted 01-24- 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smokey   Click Here to Email Smokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any legislation enacted is bought and paid
for, republican or democrat.

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Jerry
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posted 01-25- 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Smokey, you are really depressing me. You actually believe that money is the only thing that motivates legislators? You are the most cynical person I ever met! What about compassion, morality, patriotism, concern for people, religious faith, political philosophy, economic philosphy, personal beliefs and security (to name a few) as motivators other than money? Who paid our Founding Fathers to write the Constitution and Bill of Rights?

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Smokey
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posted 01-25- 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smokey   Click Here to Email Smokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Politicians may or may not have the qualities
you mention. It makes no difference, the
system would corrupt them anyway. At least
that is what I believe. The system is money
driven. The only way these people can keep
their jobs is through the contributions they
are able to amass and also from party funding.
They have to sell out both to contributors
and the party in order to have enough money
to get elected.

They also have to play ball with their party
regardless of what they personnaly believe
or the party will give them opposition in
their primarys. They may be able to stray at
times but they have to be careful especially
on the major issues.

Go ahead and live in your little world where
all republicans have halos around their heads
and all democrats are evil communists who's
corruptness will ruin our country. Just don't
get pissed when your retirement goes down
one of their shitholes like Enron's employees
did.

BTW I think our founding fathers would be
spinning in their graves if they could see
this country now. Especially having a president
that was appointed by the supreme court.

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Jerry
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posted 01-25- 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go ahead and live in your little world where all republicans have halos around their heads and all democrats are evil communists who's corruptness will ruin our country.

You failed to notice that I haven't accused one party or the other in this topic. I don't believe that Democrats are any more likely than Republicans to be "bought". I don't believe that Democrats are any more or less dishonest than Republicans.

It's their core beliefs that I disagree with. Beliefs which I don't think will change because of money - unfortunately. If so, why don't the "rich" Republicans just 'buy" the Democrats?

You're the one who is obsessed with money Smokey. You believe that money is the prime motivator for everyone's behavior. I have more faith in people than that.

Sure, there is greed in every profession. The government has paid billions to doctors guilty of medicare fraud. Do you condemn the entire medical profession? The government has paid billions to welfare fraud recipients. Do you propose we do away with all welfare?

How do you keep on living thinking that everyone can be bought, that our entire nation - it's commerce and politics is based on bribery, that everyone's beliefs are for sale? That .38 must look real tempting to such a bitter old man. Look at it as a late term abortion, that should make it easy for a good Democrat.

All you have done is reinforce my belief that the union mentality sucks! Thank God unions are dying.

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