posted 01-09- 04:52 PM               

What do you have to say to that DanW?

posted 01-09- 05:17 PM            

Well, in Oregon it might not be of any social value, but in Texas, football rules. Hence the 83,000+ crowds at each UT home game and the sold out season tickets.

The Ducks were fantastic this year.(And those cheerleaders are HOT). They exposed Colorado for being an over-ranked and over-hyped team. They should have played in the Rosebowl, that's for sure. Congrats.

posted 01-09- 07:31 PM               

How much does the head of the UT medical school earn? If football rules, next time you get sick call a linebacker. LOL That's what I mean about social value.

posted 01-09- 09:29 PM            

1. It's not just the football program that generates the money, you have to count the other sports, albiet they probably don't generate as much income as football. Plus you have to count for the fan base...bigger schools bring in bigger bucks....that's simple math and statistics. It's obvious that the big schools pay more.

2. You're comparing apples with oranges. Corporations are 'persons' as per the Supreme Court decisions of the past. An Athletic Department at a state run institution is not a corporation. The CEO of a corporation is held accountable by the shareholders, all of whom want to see a profit each quarter. A football coach wins games for the university, plus does other jobs such as recruiting and PR. He/she is held accountable by the AD and the Board of Regents. Yes, the coaches are in some ways repsonsible for bringing in revenue based on how well the team does...ie, the team is good, ticket sales and paraphanilia sales are higher resulting in increased profits. But, the CEO gets fired for losing money, the coach gets fired for losing games - big difference.

How much should a CEO get? ...I don't know. One would assume it's based on performance and what CEOs are going for at the time...just like coaches. Your whole intent of this thread is to try and get me into a liberal/conservative flame fest about how CEOs get paid too much and how big corporations are evil. LOL It's ok, I'd rather talk about football.

"How much does the head of the UT medical school earn?"

I don't know, nor do I care. UT has more than one medical school. It's not located at the main campus.

"If football rules, next time you get sick call a linebacker. LOL That's what I mean about social value."

Err, football provides entertainment to the masses...At least in this state it does..if that's not social value, then I don't know what is.

posted 01-09- 10:14 PM               

Why do liberals believe that only corporate executives earn too much? If our corporations fail, the whole country fails. If the entertainment industry fails....big deal! So which is more important to American society?

You say you don't know how much a CEO should get. Then how do you know that Bill Gates gets too much, as you are always claiming? Do you know or don't you. What is the liberal formula for determining the worth of a CEO?

posted 01-10- 09:25 AM               

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Originally posted by DanW:
Surely a head doctor provides more social value than a Britney Spears album, correct?

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My toe-cheese provides more social value than a Britney Spears album.

posted 01-10- 03:41 PM            

LOL. What book did you get that out of? Why do these people make this kinda cash? It's because people like what they do...of course they earn too much money. But, its supply and demand.

"They are just this side of Communists and you know it! "

Yeah, that's probably why the Communist party has SUCH a large number of members in this country eh?

"Then how do you know that Bill Gates gets too much, as you are always claiming? Do you know or don't you. "

Lay down the crap pipe...when did I say Bill Gates gets paid too much? It's his law-breaking monopoly that I am against. Bill is a genious, but he broke the law. I'm not concerned about Bill's pay, I'm concerned about his company's effects on the PC market and the development tools that I use as a programmer. As I said before, you get paid what you are worth. I have nothing against a rich CEO getting paid...I wish I was rich CEO. But lawbreakers should be punished....and Bill and gang broke the law.

You are so wrapped up in your liberal conspiracy that you forget the fact that most people want money just like everyone else. The difference is how you get the money and how much you give back to society in the form of taxes. If you think 'liberals' don't want corporations to succeed, then you are an idiot. Liberals need jobs too, and thus are firm supporters of capitalism as well. They just aren't blind to the tax breaks and law breaking that you seem to miss on a daily basis. You need to quit drawing that hard line with your crayons...there aren't always to hard lines on every issue.

" What is the liberal formula for determining the worth of a CEO?"

You may want to find a liberal to answer this question, I don't know nor do I care.

"Why do liberals believe that only corporate executives earn too much? "

Probably the same reason that a conservative thinks a head football coach at a flag-ship institution gets paid too much? I don't know, you tell me.

"When the football coach is making 10x (was it more, I forget) what a tenured professor is making, it is just wrong when your supposed main reason for being is education. Funnel that money back into the community if you have to. Help out primary and secondary schools, that would do tremendous good in this day and age."

I totally disagree. The money for the sports comes from the sports themselves. Ticket sales, paraphanelia, donations. It doesn't come from tuition or taxes. So why do you rob the athletic department for being successful? People buy these clothes and tickets because they like and enjoy the sports. It's entertainment. Yes, it's a shame that most of the focus of a big school is on its athletic program, but go ask a school community how they feel about their athletic program after that national championship or big win...and see what they say. Everyone wants to be a winner and they identify that by their sports teams.

"When it comes to the entertainment and professional sports arenas, fine. "

This I disagree with too. Professional sports will threaten a city to move if they don't build them a new stadium with tax dollars. They want the community to build them a new stadium so they can profit from it..that's bogus and a form of corporate welfare. The athletic facilities at this school are paid for a built off of funds generated by the athletic department and not through taxes or bonds. Take the tax dollars you are giving the professional teams and give that money to the primary schools, not the money the university makes.