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Jerry+
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posted 12-31- 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry+   Click Here to Email Jerry+     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FROM "THE DAILY TELEGRAPH", LONDON, MONDAY 24TH DECEMBER 2001

EUROPE WILL NEVER RIVAL THE POWER AND PURPOSE OF AMERICA

By W.F. DEEDES

What an extraordinary contrast we see between Europe's enthusiasm for regulating our lives and its reluctance to get seriously involved when as happened on 11th September, "the chips are down". The notion that, by bringing into line a dozen or more nations, Europe can match the power and influence of America is taking a considerable knock.

Europe can create a common currency, regulate trade and industrial practices. It can produce endless codes of conduct for our different institutions. What it cannot do is to achieve a common foreign policy, and so present the sort of resolve that makes America formidable.

And please don't tell me that it is early days, and that Europe will eventually gather such strength and influence. As long as Europe's principal nations pursue their separate interests in the world, as they have done for centuries and will go on doing, there will be no concerted foreign policy.

Britain's attachment to America, which Tony Blair has been fostering with heroic diplomatic endeavours, is not reflected in Europe. Russia now has a closer understanding with America than has France.

Having lived through two world wars, I am not against closer European brotherhood. I support it. But I deplore Europe's pretensions, such as promises of a European Army that can replace NATO, so making us independent of America.

This is eyewash, and recent events in Afghanistan have proved it to be eyewash. America knows what Europe finds hard to accept, namely, that in this predatory world, you must defend your corner or go under. That concept is anathema to peace-loving Europeans, dedicated to a cosy, conformist life for us all; but it is reality.

That we can all celebrate Christmas this week with a relatively easy mind owes more than Europeans will admit to the power of America. Deplore it, if you must, but don't pretend it is not so.

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Gypsy9
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posted 12-31- 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gypsy9   Click Here to Email Gypsy9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps these links from your fellow countrymen may help to answer your questions http://www.civil-liberties.com/books/ http://members.shaw.ca/revelations18/news.htm
If i've been reliably informed it's not about european countries anymore they've been brought up by corporate multinational companys and our PM Tony Blair is just one of the PR men who tell us what we're getting weather we like it or not, and the Euro along with some very dodgy new laws which take away some basic freedoms over here is what we're getting right now.I understand that you too may be looseing some of your liberties I hope not or the Fan will be grinding it out over all of us in 2002 one things is for sure some guys will be making a lot of money and have done already post 911. God bless America and the whole planet for that matter.
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Pachy
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posted 01-01- 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pachy   Click Here to Email Pachy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who said we wanted to rival anything anymore? European countries have ruled the world for centuries, then destroyed each other during the world wars. We are now trying to do something else, namely living together peacefully and in good economic conditions. Sorry if it sounds like lacking ambition. I have no problems admitting I live in an ex-world leader country, now a second rate power. What's America's "purpose" by the way? In the last century we had a "purpose" - to bring our great civilization to our colonial empire. I did not turn out that great eventually.

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der.Todesvogel
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posted 01-01- 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for der.Todesvogel   Click Here to Email der.Todesvogel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IMO, America's one purpose is to get people off this planet. This goal may mean developing a multidementional DNA seed that can be planted on another world, or may be as immediate as putting people on Mars.

America wants to be the father of the next human race. All the infrastructure of America (defence, trade, etc) is meant to support this goal.

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Jerry+
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posted 01-01- 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry+   Click Here to Email Jerry+     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todesvogel, does Fox Mulder know about this?

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der.Todesvogel
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posted 01-02- 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for der.Todesvogel   Click Here to Email der.Todesvogel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know who knows this. But what other reason is there to map the Genome and build inter-planetary space craft?

Space research has taken a rest while some bio-scary research attempts to find out how to spread our genes around space.

I guess The Aliens are not yet aware of our intentions; however, the Martians have successfully rebuffed our attempts to invade.

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Fox Mulder
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posted 01-03- 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fox Mulder   Click Here to Email Fox Mulder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Tod, the aliens are abdutcting the messages from this board for some weird experiment - do you agree Scully?

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Jerry+
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posted 01-03- 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry+   Click Here to Email Jerry+     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Fox! The only truth I am interested in is...how is Scully in the sack?

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Fox Mulder
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posted 01-03- 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fox Mulder   Click Here to Email Fox Mulder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look´s like this - without the "X"-hands...

-Do you agree Scully?

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Rendsburger
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posted 01-03- 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rendsburger   Click Here to Email Rendsburger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jerry+:
[B]FROM "THE DAILY TELEGRAPH", LONDON, MONDAY 24TH DECEMBER 2001
B]

Aehh question (one day after euro starts):

Where is London?
and what to the hell is "The Daily Telegraph"?

Hmm, i remember an island i visited a long long time ago anywhere to the west.But i can´t remember the name and it doesn´t bother me

Rendsburger

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