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jgro
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posted 09-22- 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jgro   Click Here to Email jgro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm cursed. Every time I try to build/upgrade a computer, it never ****ing works. I'm building a new system. Here's my specs:

AMD 1.4 ghz Athalon processor
ECS K7S5A Motherboard
Apacer PC133 ram 256 mb
Diamond Viper V770 32 mb graphics card (I know it's old, but I want to get everthing else updated first)
Creative 52X speed CDRom
Antec pp-303x 300 watt power supply

My problem is that when I go to start it up, it runs for about 5 seconds and shuts off. The monitor never turns on. The fans all start and the light on the CDRom turns on. I'm thinking maybe it's the power supply. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jgro

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ArgonV
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posted 09-22- 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its either the power supply or a voltage jumper setting. Also make sure you have the clock speeds right on the CPU.

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ArgonV
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posted 09-22- 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
P.S.

Make sure your hard drive cables are in the right way too!

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Vahnatai
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posted 09-22- 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vahnatai   Click Here to Email Vahnatai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No CD/RW?
an old vid card??? (this would be my 1st priority upgrade)
only 256 mb RAM? when u can get another 256 mb for $14??

Whats this world coming too!

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Sunray
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posted 09-23- 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunray   Click Here to Email Sunray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If ALL your fans are running it's not the power supply. Do they stay running? The light on the CD-ROM tells you it's getting power. Does it stay on? Do you get a hard drive and/or floppy lights at all? How many, if any, beeps do you get? One is good. Anything else is bad. Check the book you should have gotten for the mother board for the beep codes. They won't tell you exactly what's wrong but they will start you in the right direction.
I suspect your video card. It's entirely possible that your video card isn't compatible with the new racing machine. And, um, make sure your monitor is turned on and the brightness is up. Sounds stupid I know, but it's been known to happen.
Before you run out and spend the rent/mortgage/kids college fund money, make sure all the assorted cables are in properly(pin 1 to pin 1. Most ribbon cables have a coloured line on the side of the cable telling you which side is pin 1 on it. You'll have to look on the device near the connector for pin 1 on it. Mind you, most current connectors only go in one way. Check them anyway). And be sure all the cards are seated all the way in. The correct tool for this is your thumb.
Let us know what happens.

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Nat
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posted 09-23- 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
some motherboards have a jumper setting on the board that effectively locks the BIOS, just sit down with the manual for the m/b for a couple of mins and read through the installation guide making sure that you've done what it says.

I only get the problem you're having if I overclock the m/b too much, so maybe make sure that any jumpers for clocking are set right.

Clear the CMOS with the onboard jumper to make sure there's not something in there giving you a problem.

Check the mounting of the CPU, make sure you've put it in the right way round.

I think most other things have been listed, but I feel it'll be something simple rather than a dead part.

Good luck!

~Nat~

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jgro
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posted 09-23- 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jgro   Click Here to Email jgro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the replies guys. When I said that it shut off after 5 secs, I mean the power shut off. Everything is dead. I don't get any beeps and my monitor never kicks in (the light stays yellow). I tried using my old 16 mb Banshee PCI card and got the same results. The resest switch does nothing after it shuts off. As for jumpers, there only are 2. This is a jumperless board. I have checked everyting over 20 times and read the manual at least that many times. The reason I think it's the power supply is that I read on AMD's site that it will shut down the chip if the incorrect voltage is being supplied. That seems like that is what is happening.

For Vahnatai,

I know some of this stuff needs to be updated. I only had a certain amount of money to spend, and I wanted to get a good foundation set with some horsepower under the hood. A GEForce3 would do no good on my present system anyway (450 mhz AMD K6-2), so why waste my money at this time.

jgro

[This message has been edited by jgro (edited 09-23-2001).]

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Nat
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posted 09-23- 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, now this sounds very much to me like CPU overheating, most systems have a built in cut off if the heat gets to high.

You MUST now remove the heatsink from your CPU and take the CPU out, clean all the grease off it (if it has a heat patch on the heatsink, remove it and clean that aswell) Buy yourself some Artic Silver 2 compound and put a thin coat over the core of the cpu only and place back onto the M/B, then replace the cleaned heatsink and fan very very carefully, the sink must be fitted perfectly level with the core of the CPU and it's not uncommon for them not to be fitted properly with the core being so small now (take great care when doing this for 2 reasons, 1. to make sure you have it fitted perfectly, 2. because the core is very easy to damage if you try to hard).

Jumperless Boards and AMD - Your voltage can only be correct. The BIOS reads the core voltage from how the CPU is hard wired (L6), unless you have used certain overclocking methods then you can't change this, so this cannot be the problem here.

From what you're telling us, this IMO must be heat releated, and best to do what I said above. If this doesn't help, then thats one major thing off the list.

~Nat~

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jgro
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posted 09-23- 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jgro   Click Here to Email jgro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CPU overheating in 5 seconds? Doesn't sound right to me. I did purchase a Thermaltake Volcano 5 heatsink and fan instead of some cheapo generic type. I'll check it out tho Nat.

jgro

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mposis
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posted 09-23- 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mposis   Click Here to Email mposis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try this board for help: http://forum.ocworkbench.com/ocwbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=4

I am also thinking of getting the same CPU, motherboard, and power supply you have but decided to wait for the new Athlons coming out. They require 20% less power than the current Athlons.

[This message has been edited by mposis (edited 09-23-2001).]

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jgro
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posted 09-26- 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jgro   Click Here to Email jgro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Finally got it working I bought a new power supply and case and put it all back together and now everything is working fine .... almost. After I had it up and running, I discovered that the company that I bought the motherboard/chip combo sent me the wrong chip. Instead of a 1.4 ghz, they sent me a 1 ghz. Oh well, I got to play with for about a day before I pulled the chip to send it back. Thanks for the help guys.

jgro

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ArgonV
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posted 09-26- 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I knew it was the power supply...

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VDU
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posted 09-26- 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VDU   Click Here to Email VDU     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jgro,

are you absolutely sure you haven't got a 1.4 ?

The thing is with AMD you need to tell your bios that your bus speed is 133 instead of 100: it will not detect it automatically. I personnaly got a 1.33 and had the same feeling as you when I first booted it up: I thought I had "only" a 1 Gig processor !

So, if your computer speed is listed as something like 1052 MHz, it is absolutely normal; just change the bus speed in your bios and you will get 1400.

You can double check it by looking directly at the processor: it should be written 1.4 somewhere on it.

Vincent

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jgro
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posted 09-26- 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jgro   Click Here to Email jgro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VDU,

I did check the number on the processor, it's a 1 ghz. When I called the place that I bought it from, they checked the serial number against their inventory and they confirmed that it was a 1 ghz.

jgro

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