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Dora-Niner
Cadet
posted 06-22- 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dora-Niner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, a few ignorant questions that I didn't see answered in a quick flip through the four pages of the board. I read the old thread I posted about this from April 2000, and I may have gotten some answers, but I might just ask again. (Hope nobody minds!)

01. I've got a Voodoo Banshee (by APOLLO, or whoever they are, somewhere in Nationalist China), using the WindowsUpdate driver. It's a long story, but as far as I know, that's the only one I can get working with this card. Just take it at face value. OK, so: Why is my aircraft shaking like a large Jello sculpture on the ground?

If this is normal, go ahead and say so. I installed SDOE on another computer, and it did that as well. So now I'm thinking it may be normal---but it's hard to get used to. How'd you folks do it?

02. I've got a very see-saw single-engine airplane, no matter what I fly. They kind of like to snap back and forth in maneuvers. Is this a trimming problem, a joystick problem, or what? I've got the same problem in MiG Alley, so I'm wondering if it's not in calibration somewhere.

OK, thanks in advance for the help---sure seems like the SDOE group is still alive and well; I just hope I can get in on the action. Problem is, I generally get frustrated and go back to Falcon or Flanker. This is, of course, bad, but I always get irritated with the game.

Thanks,
Dora

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goth
Pilot
posted 06-22- 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goth   Click Here to Email goth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are my guesses.

1- be sure you turned off "head shake" as an option. Its supposed to simulate the bobbing of your head in the aircraft, but instead it's just annoying.

2- SDOE can be very touchy on a lot of joysticks. Lower the sensitivity all the way down in options, and you may want to play with the deadzone too. What stick are you using?

When you say the aircraft is shaking like jello, is it the whole picture, just the aircraft, or is it the aircraft seems to be "bouncing" on the runway? Some of the SDOE planes handle badly on the gound, and suffer a lot of bouncing.

Good luck.

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Nat
JAG
posted 06-22- 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, check to see if every aircraft bounces, they shouldn't, but there are a couple that do bounce a little, thats true.

Your other problem realy does sound like the joystick, and Goths advice is correct, try lowering the sensativity settings.

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Dora-Niner
Cadet
posted 06-22- 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dora-Niner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
01. Head shake is definitely off.

02. I'm using a Suncom Talon. The sensitivity is pegged on the left. The dead zone's been scaled to about 40%.

The aircraft I've noticed this the most on is the default 190. While sitting on the runway, the canopy framing shakes and shudders as if someone's gotten ahold of it, and is violently tossing the aircraft. In the exterior, everything's fine, though.

I took it up against a pair of B-17Gs and a P-38J in "Scramble", and although I was able to kill all three, I had a lot of trouble keeping the aircraft steady. I was basically pulling the trigger and hoping, instead of being able to aim like in MiG Alley or (heaven forbid!) EAW, and certainly not like in Flanker or Falcon.

This may be, of course, my differing expectations. Graphics-wise, I've set it to D3D Renderer, playing in 640x480. Texture detail is full, object detail is 50%.

Thanks again for your help.

Dora, the three-kill wonder

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Nat
JAG
posted 06-22- 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Typialy the 190 is a very twichy aircraft in flight, try using a different plane and see how you get on.

OK, other things that might help in flight.. you're deadzone sounds much to large to me, I don't know if you understand what it's for, so I'll try to explain: When the joystick is held, you naturaly move slightly even when you don't want to actuly turn or whatever, the deadzone is there so that any movement picked up below the level you set the deadzone to is ignored, this stops your hand from moving slightly and the aircraft reacting to it. OK, thats good, but if you set it to large you can very strange reactions from the aircraft, you'll move the stick but nothing happens till you've moved it quiet alot, in your case almost half of your sticks full axis movement, then it suddenly snaps into actio and flips your aircraft in that direction... not good.

Personly, I have my deadzone set to 0 and that sensativity marker is below the T in the word, I suggest you try setting your deadzone down to around the A in Dead and see if that helps, I know it'll make a difference, still, if thats not much better, take it down some more. Large deadzones are not a good thing in general, and they way you have deadzopne and sensativity set may be adding to your flight problems.

Are you using the Standard original SDOE off the CD, or have you upgraded to one of the plane packs, I remember this problem sometime last year in the 190's, it's down to the brake on the tail wheel, but as far as I know it was fixed, atleast I haven't seen the problem in a long time.

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Dora-Niner
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posted 06-22- 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dora-Niner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Update:

I tinkered with the sensitivities and so forth, and voila! Positive results gotten.

My test mission of choice is "Straggler", and I use the planes straight from CD, 'cause I haven't downloaded PP6/6.1 yet. Using the P-51D, I was able to collect both the Ju 88 and the Fw 190, but lost the score in a CTD.

The aircraft were much more "controllable" this time around, and things generally seem to go better in SDOE-land.

Goth & Nat, thank you very much for your advice! To make this story even better, I found such good results from adjusting those things in SDOE, that I decided to give MiG Alley's settings a tweak. I did, and it turned the previously useless F-51D into a solid strafing machine. Got nine kills on a road reconnaisance patrol, with rockets and guns.

Yay. Thanks again!
Dora

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Nat
JAG
posted 06-23- 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just glad we could help to sort out your problems

~Nat~

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