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Skinnyman
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posted 05-31- 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skinnyman   Click Here to Email Skinnyman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After spending 5 hours on the telephone with Microsoft, it appears that my video freeze/corruption problem can only be my card. Has anyone else out there with an Nvidia TNT2 M64 card had corruption/freeze after playing the game for 3-10 minutes? I've run the game with Nvidia 5.32, 6.18 and 6.5 drivers as well as Windows ME's Nvidia driver, all with the same result. My card was OEM so I'm not sure of it's creator, but it appeared to be an AOpen.
I've posted about this problem, receiving all sorts of help from everyone here and abroad (AOpen's newsgroup, Microsoft etc.) and after months of getting nowhere the answer comes down to the card being bad. I still have difficulty with the logic that the card is bad when games run just fine for about 5 minutes, but I'll nail it down soon with a new card I guess. At this point I hope the card is bad.
Wanted to thank all for the help

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goth
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posted 05-31- 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goth   Click Here to Email goth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had that problem with my AMD-K62 and a TNT1. It turned out to be a combination of a voltage problem in the socket-7 board, and a heat build-up in the TNT.

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Psi
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posted 05-31- 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Psi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's what I was going to say Goth, heat, heat,heat...
Try turning all your textures to their lowest and see if it give you a little more time before blackout. If so then I would say it's overheating.
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Jerry
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posted 05-31- 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you tried opening up your case and blowing a room fan on it? If that delays the freeze-up then it's definitely heat.

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JG3_Jetlag
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posted 05-31- 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JG3_Jetlag   Click Here to Email JG3_Jetlag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try using the coolbits registry hack and underclock the card. Try underclocking your processor too if you can to see if that makes any difference.

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Nat
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posted 05-31- 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This realy sucks, I know for a fact you've tried everything mentioned above, and myself I realy can't think of anything else that you could try. I guess the last thing to say is warrenty? Can you have it changed because it's defect? Obviously something isn't right with it because you've done everything to try and sort it out.

I hope you can get the card swapped or something

~Nat~

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Harman_5
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posted 06-01- 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harman_5   Click Here to Email Harman_5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I've also had this problem too

I went out a bought an M64, hoping it would be better than my TNT 1 8Mb, installed, played and after a few minutes, lockup.

I exchanged the card for another, and the same thing happened. I opened my case and tried with it open for cooling, nope. Tried all the available drivers, nope.

Maybe this card has a prob with SDOE? I couldn't figure it out, so I returned it and got some RAM instead. Back to my old TNT1 for now I guess...

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[This message has been edited by Harman_5 (edited 06-01-2001).]

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Da Jug head
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posted 06-01- 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's done all the stuff to eliminate heat in previous posts

The problem is probably a voltage related one. As I've unfortunately had to inform skinnyman, AOpen has a BAD reputation among local dealers I know out here. I couldn't find an AOpen board if I wanted one.

The voltage problem could be caused by, the AOpen loading the voltage too much, or a problem with the MB.

Since you live in the US, find a store that allows you to return hardware, buy a better quality board, stick it in and see if your problem goes away. If it doesn't you probably have a problem in the MB. If it does go away, you'll know it's the video card. You can always return the card when you're done.

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Skinnyman
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posted 06-01- 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skinnyman   Click Here to Email Skinnyman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys. My intention right now is to make some cash on ebay selling unnecessary things so I can buy myself the necessary (a reputable video card). I bought this card through ebay and the company I got it from sucks ass because I've faxed and called now (never talked to a person) and never received a response. Their website states that you can return defective merchandise, but their money isn't where their mouth is apparently (I haven't given up yet though).
What's this talk about voltage though and underclocking? Tell me more, because I still want to try things to make this work.
I don't think it's just SDOE that's the problem though, because a game called Earth 2150 also freezes up on me, though it takes longer. Heat still sounds so logical to me because the game runs so well for a period of time and then it corrupts. I would think if the card was bad, it would be bad always, not after a certain period of time of playing. That part doesn't make any sense to me.

[This message has been edited by Skinnyman (edited 06-01-2001).]

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goth
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posted 06-01- 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goth   Click Here to Email goth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From my meager understanding....
In the socket 7 boards (AMD K6) there was a problem with a voltage drop to the AGP socket. Although the boards were made for AGP, some couldn't do it because of the voltage drop. It was worse if there was any overclocking. The recommended solution was to not put any cards in the PCI slot closest to the AGP slot.

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UNGLÜCKSRABE
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posted 06-01- 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UNGLÜCKSRABE   Click Here to Email UNGLÜCKSRABE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If this happens with a diffent card then I will lay my bet with it being ME. ME is the wost windows to come down the pipe. Everyone gave good answers but if you get a different card and its still a problem you may need a "win98 or win2000" cure. Don't wait for XP, its a beast so far on beta 2, To much overhead. I happen to do this for a living but I am not unfalable. Your probablem I say has a 99% chance of being one of these three: the Card, ME being a buggy piece, or a AMD cpu acting weird. Aopen makes alot of good stuff but thier video cards always seemed "amdish" meaning sometimes you run across real flaky ones. On the other hand they make the best modems this side of the old USRs. The reason I don't think its drivers is because even the default ME drivers for that card should have gotten him up and running. When I was testing ME I had that same card and played SDOE on the default drivers. Play stump the chump today!

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