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Apeboy
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posted 11-30- 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apeboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Get this......

Last night I'm on with Tailslide et al. Went to join a game (2nd or 3rd) and got booted to desktop. No biggie, went to restart SDOE and no luck. Wound up rebooting the whole system. Thats when things get interesting......

Reboot went fine and went to crank up my ISP interface, connected then poof..illegal operation. Since then I've gotten "Access Violation", "Integer Overflows" and "Error reading registry key value". What is going on??? I don't get the operation except for a few programs and windows guardian cannot autofix them. Tracked down a few .dlls that I get the Access error on, mostly its msvcrt.dll and verctrl.dll (mindspring .dll). I've spent a couple of hours on the MS site and that sure didn't give me that warm and fuzzy feeling. Especially about the float point stuff and integer overflows . Tried ScanDisk and Defrag to no avail.

Any ideas??

Any help greatly appreciated,
Apeboy

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Kraftwerk
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posted 11-30- 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kraftwerk   Click Here to Email Kraftwerk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
restart computer dos mode
c:\
format c:\


(make sure you have all important personal files backed up ANYWHERE but on your machine.)

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Apeboy
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posted 11-30- 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apeboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There has got to be a better way. Any way to just replace the win98 files that would be causing the prob?

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kopper
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posted 11-30- 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kopper   Click Here to Email kopper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you don't have to do a format c:\ . What version of windows are you running. There is a command for recovery based on the windows registery and you can restore it to a day previous. You will lose changes or any software installed.

I just can't remember the command off hand.

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Apeboy
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posted 11-30- 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apeboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Running Win98.

Tried scanreg and a few other things but it doesn't seem to fix it. Scanned for corrupt files with msinfo32.exe. Still nothing.

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kopper
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posted 11-30- 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kopper   Click Here to Email kopper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't find the command but try this from the Windows help:

To restore the registry

1 Click the Start button, and then click Shut Down.

2 Click Restart The Computer In MS-DOS Mode, and then click Yes.
3 Change to your Windows directory. For example, if your Windows directory is C:\Windows, you would type the following:
cd c:\windows
4 Type the following commands, pressing ENTER after each one. (Note that System.da0 and User.da0 contain the number zero.)
attrib -h -r -s system.dat
attrib -h -r -s system.da0
copy system.da0 system.dat
attrib -h -r -s user.dat
attrib -h -r -s user.da0

copy user.da0 user.dat
5 Restart your computer.

Tip

Following this procedure will restore your registry to its state when you last successfully started your computer.

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Apeboy
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posted 11-30- 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apeboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thx kopper but the computer starts up fine and shuts down fine. It is just selected programs that are giving my the illegal ops. If it is a reg problem it backed up last night when I shut down. Does the process you outlined only cover startup problems or would it address the .dll file problem whilst running programs after startup?

Thx again
Apeboy

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kopper
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posted 11-30- 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kopper   Click Here to Email kopper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This isn't the command I was looking for but it does say it will restore to the last time your pc booted correctly. What have you got to lose?

No guts, no glory!

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kopper
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posted 11-30- 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kopper   Click Here to Email kopper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found it! I think you will have to be in safe mode to do this.
From a dos prompt issue the command:

scanreg /restore


A menu will come up with a list of dates select one and viala! It should come up no probs. I have used it 3 types and avoided the old 'format c:\' thing.

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Apeboy
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posted 11-30- 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apeboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, found the program that allows prior reg to be loaded in. Unfortuantely that didn't do it. Ugh. Don't understand this one. Deleted SDOE of my HD. That was the only other program running other than my ISP interface, sigh looks like format getting closer.

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Tailslide
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posted 11-30- 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Try running the windows setup and choose "replace missing or corrupt files".

TS

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Kraftwerk
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posted 11-30- 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kraftwerk   Click Here to Email Kraftwerk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Format C:\ looking a bit more closer to hand now, eh?
Seriously, you can uninstall and reinstall win98 and see if that works. Remember to have a boot disk handy. You shouldn't lose any of your program files or folders.

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Apeboy
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posted 11-30- 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apeboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First off, thanks for all the help.

As it turns out I went ahead and formatted. The re-installation of Win98 was going fine until I hit the product key number. At this time I got the dreaded "MSGSRV32 caused a general protection fault in module PIDGEN.dll". Believe it or not this was caused by the date of 11/30/2099 being on my setup screen! Once this was changed to todays date the rest of the installation seems to be coming along nicely. Not sure if this date issue was causing all those other illegal operations or not. I have to admit I'm a bit leary of installing SDOE at this point but I'm sure that will pass .

Hope this helps out if anyone else encounters this particular problem.

Thanks again,
Apeboy

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Mighty
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posted 11-30- 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mighty   Click Here to Email Mighty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sort of thing happened to me once about two years ago. Somehow my date got advanced by 100 years. I had two or three programs that barfed at the date. I think one was Starcraft, when I tried to load saved files.

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