posted 10-06- 03:21 PM               

Its VERY good. A friends bosses wife (LOL) wants to borrow it after its done because she feels it would be a good history lesson for her kids.

It brought me a whole new respect for her, we have different religious tendancies.

Me athiest, her bible thumber supream.

I have a feeling she will back out when she sees the gore. She did with saving privite Ryan. At least its a good effort on her part though.

I want to get the DVD edition if one comes out to show my son when he is older.

I recently taped Stalingrad too, that was a great movie. The german made one, not that newer one about snipers.

posted 10-06- 09:15 PM               

I thought it was great.

It seems like every show has a main story and a minor theme.

Totally teaching history and lessons of war, I like how it shows how bad it can be.

Not many people (except us and others that study it) realize that when someone said war is hell, they ment it.

About Stalingrad, I think the german movie does it all nicely, I see no reason for a hollywood remake. I would like to see another made by russia.

We need MORE movies made outside the US, specialy ones covering topics of history.

I want to see a german movie about fighters during the war. Or russian. German would have more stuff to cover.

posted 10-06- 10:50 PM               

I have no problem with Hollywood movies about Americans in the war, I mean if Canada's film industry were as big don't tell me we wouldn't be seeing films about Hong Kong, Dieppe, Juno Beach, etc. I just wish we would get more war movies and fewer love stories camouflaged as the same.

Werner

posted 10-06- 11:13 PM               

Its not that I absolutly hate hollywood, I think they tend to over do things. I just see no point in hollywood remaking that movie. Why? I thought it was done great. I can't see how more money would make it any better. The acting was great, the effects were great, everything looked authentic. Whats to redo?

Yes I can understand why hollywood makes movies about Americans, I have no problem with that, I don't like it when they skew stuff but I understand why they do what they do.

Yeah I would love to see more Canadian films also about our battles. I could see the Canadian film board supporting stuff, they probly just don't have the budget.

Would Americans sit through a war movie (lets say it was a really good movie on the whole) if it was about Canadians?

Yep I'm sick of the love story stuff too, Stalingrad had NONE of that. It was sweet.

Does anyone else want to see more foreign films about war? War told from other perspectives?

posted 10-07- 12:50 AM               

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Originally posted by Spanky the Mad Dog:
Would Americans sit through a war movie (lets say it was a really good movie on the whole) if it was about Canadians?

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Normally I'd jump down your throat for that one Spanky ( ) but I am interested in seeing how US sales of IL2 compare to CFS2, bearing in mind some kind of fudge factor for the shelf exposure MS bought that I doubt UbiSoft will.

Werner

posted 10-07- 04:04 PM               

This one would...in fact, as long as it were well done, it wouldn't matter who made it. I for one would love to see a well made film about the RCAF pilots in the Battle of Britain; the Polish film mentioned here a few weeks back is one I am eagerly awaiting a copy of, subtitled or not ( unfortunately it appears to have mushy in it, but as long as it adds to the story, I don't mind - much.).

I'd like to see a German version of 'All Quiet On the Western Front" just to see if their interpretation of it is different. I believe one was done, but I haven't seen it.

Band of Brothers is perhaps the best War movie/film I have seen in my 52 years; the audio alone is awesome during combat sequences... the closest my ears have heard to what seems to be described by those who lived it. ( I suppose our sound system helps in that regard ). Plus, their ability to keep as close as possible to Ambrose's book, and the stories of the men who survived, is a tribute to all involved in the making of it.

I have no doubt there will be other great films; the true test is not to compare them, but allow them to stand alone if they are true efforts to portray the realism of the heroes - men and women - who were involved. In that respect, it matters little who makes it - to me anyway.

posted 10-07- 06:28 PM               

You have to admit that mainstream America might not be interested in a war film if it wasn't involving US troops. Like WM said, is IL-2 going to sell well in the states? I have heard simmers say they arn't interested in it because its not a front with the US.

Yes there is an original german version of All Quiet on the Western Front. Its the original.

It was made in the 30s and is of course black and white. Its BRILLIANT(SP?) an amazing movie for the time, great effects and great story telling. It really shows just how sad war is. If I remember it was done by a German woman, and she was trying to show Germans the folly of war. I guess it didn't work.

I didn't even know there was a remake until I bought the book and it had a scene from the remake on the cover.

K I found a great review of the original.

Its great.

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All Quiet on the Western Front (1930) is the first major anti-war film of the sound era, faithfully based upon the timeless 1929 novel by Erich Maria Remarque. The landmark, epic film, made on a large-scale budget of $1.25 million, was an Academy Award winner for Best Picture and Best Director (Lewis Milestone), and it was also nominated for two other awards: Best Writing Achievement and Best Cinematography. It was a critical and financial success, and probably the greatest of pacifist, anti-war films - the grainy black and white film is still not dated and the film hasn't lost its initial impact. The episodic film is still one of the few early sound films that modern audiences watch. The film was advertised with the brooding face of one of the young German recruits sent into World War I.

A prologue, that introduces the film, was taken almost verbatim from the foreward to Remarque's novel:

This story is neither an accusation nor a confession, and least of all an adventure, for death is not an adventure to those who stand face to face with it. It will try simply to tell of a generation of men who, even though they may have escaped its shells, were destroyed by the war...

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http://www.filmsite.org/allq.html

Wow it actually tells the whole story of the film in 2 pages.

Its right at the top of my sons homeschooling films about War.

posted 10-07- 08:35 PM               

With regards to Band of Brothers, having read a number of books about Operation Market Garden, I was pleased in the accuracy of this series in a recent episode, especially for the small details. One detail I noticed in particular was the mention of the "Canadian engineers" that piloted the boats across the Maas to rescue the British paras who were on the other side. It is a fact that they were there but it wasn't important to the plot that they be mentioned and yet they were.

posted 10-07- 11:38 PM               

That was a huge budget for films of that era.

posted 10-08- 03:31 AM            

and my favourite:

(to Maximillian Schell)'Come, I'll show you where the Iron Crosses grow'(heading off toward the battle)

Quality.

posted 10-08- 05:40 PM               

Best book:
Chicken Hawk

Well thats my opinion.......but there are so many good war films/books.
I mean The Longest Day was cool.
As was A bridge too far,
The bridge over the river qwai(sp?)
......so many, but id always welcome more as long as they were historically accurate.
GA