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Pete Hawk
Pilot
posted 06-20- 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not at liberty to really talk about it, post pics or anything yet, but I LOVE IT!

Just had to say that

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SchaF
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posted 06-21- 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SchaF   Click Here to Email SchaF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey why not?! :)
do u had 2 agree to a license or smth? this sux..btw:is it full game or just online beta?
if it's full..how many campaigns, does it have story or smth..
btw:what are hardware requirements? i guess it needs one hell of a machine..+gf3! :()

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Lothar
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posted 06-21- 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lothar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats great, Pete. I hope you are enjoying it.

Please, though, for all of us, don't go easy on Oleg! Be picky, be critical, if something is buggy or the FMs are wrong, report it!

I'm really looking forward to this sim, and it seems like Oleg is exceptionally dedicated to doing it right the first time. Help him help us!

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Pete Hawk
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posted 06-21- 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will do!

Man O' Man, it's a truely beautiful sim. All the pics you've seen can only tell you so much. To see it in motion is incredible.

I'll shut up now.

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Werner Molders
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posted 06-21- 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SchaF - Someone who has worked closely with Oleg for a while now just told me it runs like a dream on an Athlon 800, 256 Megs of RAM and a V3.

Werner

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SchaF
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posted 06-21- 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SchaF   Click Here to Email SchaF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nice to hear that werner..
i have duron 600, 128ram, gf2mx..
i'll see about ram upgrade..128ram is pretty cheap..so are the cpus now..but this will come next year ..if it will:)

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Pete Hawk
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posted 06-21- 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On my PIII 850 with Geforce2 MX it runs great! (256 megs RAM also)

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Gustang
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posted 06-21- 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gustang   Click Here to Email Gustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So... what exactly _can_ you say about it, Pete.

You can evidently state a general opinion. How about refute untrue or opined statements (i.e. "I heard a rumor that IL2 multiplay is really terrible and can't support over 10 players at a time and still be playable")?

Can you state yes or no? Play 21 questions?

j/k.. now get back to the bug killin'!

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Razer
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posted 06-21- 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a Voodoo5 and IL-2 was really slow on it (733 pIII) but when i dropped int he GeForce 3 my performance went thru the roof with everything up and 1128x what ever in 32bit color.

it's really a great game just wish they would be more open to add-ons.

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Whirlwind
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posted 06-21- 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sadly, Maddox had ticked me off by stating that the reason he didn't make it open ended like SDOE was that he didn't want cheaters to be able to modify planes. As far as I know, SDOE hasn't had any problems of the like. His comment (posted on BlueByte's IL-2 faq, I beleive) got a WTF reaction from me. I think the real reason is that if IL-2 does well, money can be made by selling add-ons.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 06-21- 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Actually I'm glad they arn't.

I like they way they are going about it, it will avoid what SDOE has turned into and people will be flying instead of arguing about about what should be in the next plane pack and how big it should be and, and, and, and.


Siggi is right, a game needs a dictator, they are the dictators.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 06-21- 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

As far as I knew they were still going to let people work on planes but they would add it to the game and they woudl do the FM, that would keep out the arguments about FMs and DMs and crap like that.

I wouldn't have a problem with people being able to use any planes they want to make offline and in their own head to head games.

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ArgonV
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posted 06-22- 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You DO realize now Pete I hate your guts with a passion...

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Werner Molders
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posted 06-22- 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky - I love SDOE, particularly for its open-endedness, but you're right. I am so glad Oleg's doing it the way he's doing it. I'll fiddle around with SDOE and mod and stuff, but I'm going to fly and fly and fly with IL2.

Werner

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semmern
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posted 06-22- 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for semmern   Click Here to Email semmern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're not the only one Werner ......

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Razer
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posted 06-22- 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i just wish I knew MAX, i'd make some PAC planes for that game that would blow your mind.

[This message has been edited by Razer (edited 06-22-2001).]

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Diego Lozano
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posted 06-23- 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're already blowing our mind, Razer!

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Aui
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posted 06-23- 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aui   Click Here to Email Aui     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Finally someone has managed to make realistic looking smoke effects!

I'm truly amazed in how many things this sim seems to raise the bar.
But I wonder how many planes one will be able to have in the sky...

( http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screenindex/0,11104,354449-3,00.html )

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Pete Hawk
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posted 06-24- 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IL-2 will be the SDOE replacer I believe. It's got to happen sometime, and IL-2 is very capable of doing it.

So look out SDOE, your days are numbered. (And I love SDOE as you all know, so just saying IL-2 is really incredible).

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ArgonV
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posted 06-24- 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pete I totally agree with you. Ive talked to and looked at Il-2 from various sources (No Im not telling) and I believe Il-2 is THE next step in flight sims. The game is just ground breaking! Thats all there is to it. It may not be AS user-mod friendly... but it sure as hell can whoops SDOEs a$$ in every single other department.

FINALLY a flight sim that does flight true and utter justice!!

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Karaya 2
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posted 06-24- 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karaya 2   Click Here to Email Karaya 2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you at least tell us which planes are and which planes are not in it?

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Werner Molders
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posted 06-24- 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unless we get our online **** together in a hurry, IL2 is going to weaken this game to a fraction of its current following. One thing it won't do though is replace SDOE in the hearts of those who really like (w)ETO ops, like the Battle of Britain or North Africa for instance.

Oh well, its not as though when SDOE finally slips under the waves that we're all being put out to pasture, I mean already I've run into a ton of the old SDOE guys at ilyushin2.net!

Werner

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Pete Hawk
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posted 06-25- 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Karaya2,

Just go here and check out the lists and pics of all the planes. The library there is a great source for pics also. There are MANY great planes in the works for IL-2, and they are looking great.
http://www.il2center.com/

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Todesvogel
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posted 06-25- 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Todesvogel   Click Here to Email Todesvogel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Werner Molders, I disagree. The vitality of SDOE is in that it is ever-changing.

Once IL-2 is in the can, will the users evolve it every week?

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Psi
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posted 06-25- 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Psi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you say my posts are Inflammatory, didn't people also say that B-17II and CFS2 would be the death of SDOE as well!

P

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Vahnatai
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posted 06-25- 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vahnatai   Click Here to Email Vahnatai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pete...how are the flight models?? are they like SDOE or *shudder* CFS?

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Hawk
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posted 06-25- 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawk   Click Here to Email Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It will replace SDOE for a short time but this sim with it's fully elastic nature will live long and well for those that like to build highly detailed planes that simulate the real feeling of flight.


http://www.rcwarbirds.com/

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ArgonV
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posted 06-25- 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive heard that the FMs were REALLY good. I mean like better and more realistic feeling than SDOEs flight models. No where near B-172 or CFS2... And Il-2 HAS detailed planes!! Have you seen the cockpits! Or the intricate detail on the aircraft! The skins could use some slight updates tho... And NO JAGGIES!!!!

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Psi
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posted 06-25- 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Psi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dunno Argon, I don't see anything better in that post by Aui with that Yak3 than the one Tail did for us, except maybe the smoke. If yer gonna be askin me to the dance you better be buying me dinner first, and I don't mean hotdogs and kraut. The trees are great but if it was trees that were all I wanted I would be poopin through feathers

P

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Werner Molders
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posted 06-25- 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todes & Psi - Refer to to the first part of my last post for clarification.

Psi - Regardless of what I said or how you interpreted it, there is a big difference between personal-"poke-and-jab"-inflammatory and (perceived-)doomsaying-inflamatory.

For the record - SDOE is like a political party. If enough people still believe it in, you can't kill it dead. No matter how good IL2 is, its an Eastern Front sim and that doesn't cover all the bases, obviously. This is the point I was making above. The second line confused things, admittedly. The point there was that eventually 99.9% of us will have moved on (5,10 years, etc) but that doesn't mean we can't have fun with flight sims, the community still moves on. Sometimes I just see people get all defensive when it doesn't make sense, I mean its not like when SDOE does become part of the distant past that you do too.

Do you understand my point a little better now? Not inflammatory, just realistic.

Werner

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Psi
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posted 06-26- 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Psi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Sometimes I just see people get all defensive when it doesn't make sense,
You just described yourself, the statement that I made was general, not directed to you...

P

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Werner Molders
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posted 06-26- 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Psi:
And you say my posts are Inflammatory, didn't people also say that B-17II and CFS2 would be the death of SDOE as well!

P


No, Psi, actually I think that was addressed to me.

Werner

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Werner Molders
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posted 06-26- 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Psi:
[QUOTE]You just described yourself, the statement that I made was general, not directed to you...

P


Yes Pete also made a comment about IL2 possibly being the death of SDOE, but the difference was in the remark I quoted in my post above - the only two people who have on previous occasions accused each other of writing inflammatory posts are the two of us.

I'm not looking to make a flame war out of this Psi, I just wanted to make sure my point about IL2 drawing people away from SDOE was clarified, and I did that.

WM

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Zurawski
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posted 06-26- 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zurawski   Click Here to Email Zurawski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's it...

I'm throwing water on both of you!

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Psi
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posted 06-26- 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Psi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
No, Psi, actually I think that was addressed to me.

I don't need to make a point about you, you do that for yourself.

No where in your post did you say "death", if you still think my post was specifically directed to you I don't know what to tell ya.

P

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Werner Molders
JAG
posted 06-26- 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I don't need to make a point about you, you do that for yourself."

Whatever Psi.

WM

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Psi
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posted 06-26- 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Psi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Whatever Psi.

Sometimes being complacent is the best option, thanks

P

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