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Author	Topic: Where the hell all the simplicity of life has gone?!
Poniat Pilot	posted 06-18- 11:31 AM Exactly, where is it? I remember the times you either rode you bike or you pushed, it was that simple. But now, heck, just to see things roperly you need some drivers, libraries, updates, installations, fiddling, tweaking, screwing and rebuilding. Why on earth have i gotten myself in to it. Taking frigging flying lessons was way much more simple: you either were flying or ploughing All the complex best! ------------------ 9./JG3_Poniat IP: Logged
Poniat Pilot	posted 06-18- 11:33 AM And to add insult to injury, one has to learn how to ask simple questions in foreign languages! IP: Logged
SchaF Pilot	posted 06-18- 12:33 PM heh..simplicity of life..went to hell:) or u can ask urself when it was? maybe in times when they used bones and stones while eating non oiled,salted grass:) ------------------ Rip me open and erase me!!!!!! IP: Logged
jedi Pilot	posted 06-18- 01:52 PM Everything goes in cycles. Remember DOS? How bout EMM386.EXE? Ever try to get a game running when it HAD to have "640K free memory?" Hehe ever moved a "jumper?" I bet half the guys here don't even know what one is. "Simplicity" is...a relative term. ------------------ --jedi-- IP: Logged
Psi Pilot	posted 06-18- 01:54 PM I do!!! IP: Logged
Poniat Pilot	posted 06-18- 02:15 PM No, Jedi san, I don't remember DOS, wouldn't lower myself to using this c**p. I had (still have, in fact) Amigas!!! And this fact excuses me for cursing at wiblows' road to "nirvana" often and loudly, damn! (Now, if only you could hear the real thing, in Polish... ) You mean jumper, like sweatshirt, right and obviously you mean 'remove it from somebody of opposite sex'? Yeah, I seem to recall such an event in the past. Now, I don't lower myself to such unmanly tasks, too lazy am I . With Amiga you got thing called Autoconfig! Someone tried to reinvent the thing (and miserably failed) and named it Plug and play. What a joke [This message has been edited by Poniat (edited 06-18-2001).] IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 06-18- 02:23 PM I know what jumpers are! Mess with them all the time on my motherboard... IP: Logged
darthbob Pilot	posted 06-18- 02:48 PM i still have my amiga 600 and 1200, man them were the days, using workbench and all of its little programs was much more fun and easier to understand than this monstrosity i see before me now and it never crashed either. i think i still have the original b-17 flying fortress and fa-18 interceptor. there was a really cool mission were you had to intercept a cruise missle heading for a base in san fransisco. IP: Logged
Da Jug head Pilot	posted 06-18- 04:01 PM Used to have an Amiga 4000/040 and a 4000/030 Did things with those machines Windows still falls flat on it's face trying to do. Probably why I have Linux-mandrake on both my machines. Windows is basically a gaming & SDOE OS. Hmmm, if Loki software would port SDOE to Linux, I'd spend 95% of my time there. For those who don't know, Mandrake 8.0 is Very easy to install. lessee . . . time to install drivers, office suite, programming utilities, simple games, video editing software (real stuff, not movie maker), audio editing software, webserver, CD burning software and financial software for the following system: Celeron400, TNT2, Cd rom, CDRW, Adaptec SCSi card, network card, SB PCI 128, WinTV, ORB drive. WinME- 3 hours NOT including installing updates. LM 8.0- 35 minutes (uses Xfree w/ hardware acceleration). Still wish I had an updated Amiga though. ------------------ "Da Jug" FM question: Which end does the propeller thingy go on? Fighter Squadron Central ICQ: 121447410 IP: Logged
Snickers Pilot	posted 06-18- 04:24 PM Yes, I have moved many a jumper, set dip switches, slit and twisted cables for primary/secondary and much much more. Forget DOS. I learned on CPM (before the IBM PC came out,.. Does Kaypro ring a bell?) So there ------------------ Snickers =FC= [This message has been edited by Snickers (edited 06-18-2001).] IP: Logged
darthbob Pilot	posted 06-18- 05:54 PM my a600 was bog standard, the a1200 had an ordinary 020 cept with 6 mb of fast ram and the two mb aga graphics chipset. i forget lots of the amiga terminology. i used to know loads of it even though i was about 9 years old using the amigas. the only things i never liked about mine was the fact that they were woefully underpowered and ther were 4 disks to mortal combat 2 which had to be swapped for every fight and even when you wanted to do a fatality, really anoying. IP: Logged
Pye Pilot	posted 06-18- 06:01 PM If you want simple ,, you should have bought a "gameboy" for god sake there must be a flight sim for the "game boy" If you want a flight sim but you don't want to learn how to patch it to make it better,,, get a PLaystation ,, and sit in a view behind the airplane and zoom around the same digital alleyway! IP: Logged
ritt_bear Pilot	posted 06-18- 06:11 PM FORTRAN I bet someone will read that and think I said someting dirty [This message has been edited by ritt_bear (edited 06-18-2001).] IP: Logged
Nat JAG	posted 06-18- 06:16 PM LOL, the first PC I ever built was an 8088, the first programming language I learnt was BBC Basic, my first word processor was EDWord, and I still remember being totaly amazed the first time we talked about the "possiblity" of have 256 color displays IP: Logged
nealg Pilot	posted 06-18- 09:31 PM RPGII and COBOL; took one look at FORTRAN once and ran screaming from the building, never to code again. ------------------ nealg=FC= IP: Logged
Poniat Pilot	posted 06-19- 03:14 AM Pye, It's not about wanting simplicity (a nice contradiction to the title of this thread )! With the Amiga I started with Workbench (GUI) which was simple and went on learning command line interpreter (CLI). There it actually was a pleasure unlike with DOS which is a chore. Anyone used a Workbench replacement: Opus 5? Using windoze GUI pisses me off, it's not that it's not simple, it is but in so many ways that it becomes confusing. You can copy a file in at least four ways. I noticed people don't grasp the concept of desktop! Thw WIMP environment is about making the PC GUI look familiar it doesn't work with windows And no, I'm not frightened by the compexity of it. I enjoyed building my first PC, learning about W95 (never owned, used, built a PC before 1996) but with an amazement I watched people struggling to perform the simplest tasks in windoze, all shaking, being afraid of braking something (possible). With the Amiga you could start from simple if such was your wish and continue getting into the midst of things quite easily. A library have an extention: .library and is located in a catlog (drawer) called: libs. You put your scripts in to S:, your commands into C: and so on, it seems clearer for me than BOLLOX.DLL placed with a thousand of other BLX001-BLX999.DLL files in one directory. Did you know they used Amigas (a battery of them) in NASA's telemetry unit? Cheers IP: Logged
Falck Pilot	posted 06-19- 05:50 AM OMG I LOVE Fortran. I use it everyday, and half the code I touch was written in Fortran 77. 90/95 rocks I tell you. Non-Fortran-Loving heathens I tell you. IP: Logged
Gecko Pilot	posted 06-19- 07:15 AM I'm just debugging some Fortran right now, and people tell me it's obsolete? Falck; 90/95? Where have you lost the sense for purity? I bet your editor does the 6 space indents all by itself as well... Nothing better to help you ponder on the program you're writing than to stop and press the spacebar six times each time you start a new line! -Gecko =FC= IP: Logged
mposis Pilot	posted 06-19- 11:07 AM I still have my Amiga 1000 with 256K RAM with Kickstart ROM in floppy disk. I bought it in 1986. IP: Logged
Falck Pilot	posted 06-19- 04:14 PM Write(6,*) 'of course I have it automatically indent gecko ' IP: Logged
Gecko Pilot	posted 06-20- 05:51 AM Falck, don't tell me that you have the sixth column in different colour to the others as well . -Gecko =FC= IP: Logged
Falck Pilot	posted 06-20- 03:54 PM 6th column and 73 and above IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 06-20- 04:36 PM A simple answer to your question: Out the window... IP: Logged
Lothar Pilot	posted 06-21- 08:30 AM Ah, the good old Amiga 1000... I had mine "tricked out" with two floppies and 2.5 MB of RAM. Knew I had to upgrade when I was running the OS off one floppy, Sculpt3D off the other floppy, and rendering ANIM frames to a 1.5MB RAM Disk. It worked though! IP: Logged
Poniat Pilot	posted 06-22- 01:51 PM Aaah, Amiga 1000, you lucky b****ds got the stuff I could only dream about!! My first on was an 500, soon expanded to full one mega. I remember my dismay when I went to my mates office and saw that DOS overlay version 3 attempting to run, what a sorry sightit was. I was truly amazed that somebody was giving peaople this quality environment to work in :-O ! Anybody ever sued anyone for making him work in such poor conditions? I would have sued! Cheers IP: Logged

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