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Snake
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posted 06-10- 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snake   Click Here to Email Snake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went over to the Il'2 forum today and read a few posts. I was amazed that there are squads forming the I/JG3 and II/JG3 thats so cool.

Anyway I said to myself I better go register my username so I look for a place to sign up: $15 to sign up to a feakin' forum?!?!?! Are they mad! I am about the only person who won't join and thats beacuse I don't have the money to spend on forums.

I think what they did is totally unfair. What do you guys think? I wish I could join and I probably will get Il'2 but I can't pay money just to use a forum.

Snake

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JG3_Jetlag
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posted 06-10- 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JG3_Jetlag   Click Here to Email JG3_Jetlag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From IL-2 Net:-

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As of now registration at ilyushin2.net is open to all.
Anyone may view and post in those forums not marked as members only. Non-members will have status as "Guest", and be denoted by the use of the star ranking icons (red, silver and gold stars).

The member forums are reserved for the sole use of members, both viewing and posting.

If you wish to become a full member (fee paying) you are welcome to do so. The fee, for a one-year membership, is £10 UK currency, $15 US currency or the equivilent amount in your particular local currency. Only cash is acceptable as I have no means of processing cheques, money-orders or the like. The cost of foreign currency conversions will be met by me.

The address to send fees to is:

P.Webber.
86 Green Street,
Eastbourne,
Sussex,
BN21 1RN,
UK.


Upon receipt of your fee your status upon the board will be modified so that you have posting and viewing permissions in all member forums.

You must include with your fee the name you are registered on the board with, your password and e-mail address.

Membership will entitle you to inclusion in any competitions run by ilyushin2.net, and access to any file downloads that we may provide.

Membership will entitle you to the member's icon (a sun logo) in your status bar.

Please e-mail me directly if you have any questions concerning this matter: p.webber1@btinternet.com


Hope that helps

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nealg
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posted 06-10- 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nealg   Click Here to Email nealg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Normally, I am against such a thing...but I know the situation here, and the character of the person involved is above reproach in my book. He has his reasons for doing this, and they are sound, honest ones. If I were at all interested in IL2, I would pay to join the forum there; if Rowan's BoB had generated this kind of interest, and he had done the same with it as the focal point, I would already be a member.

But I would not do it if it were someone I was not familiar with, or if it were sponsored and administered by a publisher/developer. I didn't pay for Combatsim for some of those reasons, even though I thought their forum was excellent. But while I am in no danger of being broke, I do have to watch where I spend.

So, I do understand where Snake is coming from. Just my take on the situation.


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Nat
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posted 06-10- 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nat   Click Here to Email Nat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the look of IL2, and can't wait for it's release, but I would never pay a penny to use a forum for any game regardless of how much I like the game itself, thats nothing against the game owners/creators, I just disagree with paying for for a forum thats related to a game I've just paid for (or will be paying for) I love it here that we get new users on a regular basis, but I doubt e'd have any if they had to pay to join.

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Snake
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posted 06-10- 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snake   Click Here to Email Snake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know I read that Jetlag.
I agree totally with Nat. I mean I'll be paying £40 for the game anyway that should be enough to entitle me to the forum. I can still post in the forum but I can't take part in competitions or download new stuff?

Thats lousy. It seems unfair to me that such a great game did this. Anwya so far they have only 147 memebers whilst SDOE has 1147 memebers (approx)

Snake

Ps: I definitley will be buying this game anyway.

PPS: Here is something freaky: When I went to the Il-2 forum today it had 147 memebers. When I wrote 1147 members in SDOE it was just a play on how many more we have than IL-2 and it was a guess. Curiosity got the better of me and I checked how many memebers we DO have. Guess how many? 1147. Now THAT's weird.

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Werner Molders
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posted 06-10- 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a paid up member and I don't regret that decision for one second. If you want an IL2 forum, simHQ has one, BlueByte (the 'official' one) has one, and I'm sure other simming hubs have one (dogfighter, etc). The owner/operator of ilyushin2.net has a reason for the membership fee, and I believe he has struck a good balance between the atmosphere intended and openness to the public.

As for contests, I see zero reason why it is wrong in any way to have to ante up first - the prizes offered aren't some cheap trinket, they're works of art. Those items don't come cheap, either supplies or labour involved, and I think it is a very reasonable compensation for the time and effort put in by said owner/operator, not just in the competitions but the whole site itself.

Given the possibility of a perceived conflict of interest, I won't touch this thread, but I really think it belongs in OT since it has nothing to do with SDOE. If it's moved, that means Hawk thought so too.

Werner

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Zurawski
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posted 06-11- 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zurawski   Click Here to Email Zurawski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well... Truth be told, we are kind'a lucky in that Inertia hosts this forum. If not we'd be choking on an ezboard or like the IL-2 forum, be privately hosted.

That said... paying for the site and the bandwidth on ones own accord is a tall order in deed!

Ask Pete Hawk or Darren over at the BA-website... they'll be more than happy explaining how expensive and demanding hosting such a site is...

Lastly as previously noted... The IL-2 general forum is free... There are specific areas for memebers denoted. Obviously there isn't much advantage to being a member right now... I suspect that'll change dramaticly once IL-2 is released...

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Jeeves
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posted 06-11- 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed. 147 members for a game that has not yet been released is pretty good I would say. And like nealg, I know the owner as a reasonable, fair man with legitimate reasons for charging. While I am not yet a member, that will probably change when the game has been released and I am actively playing it-- but until then....I am too poor LOL

If this site became a pay site, there is a high probability that I would pay for it due to the enjoyment I get from the community....I would have to think a bit about it-- but hell-- I have three or four magazine subscriptions and I barely have any time to read them-- $15 is a good price for a subscription

As far as the prizes go-- if he's giving away any of the models he does, they are well worth over $15

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Werner Molders
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posted 06-11- 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed they are.

WM

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Snake
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posted 06-11- 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snake   Click Here to Email Snake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why would you want that? Its all dirty!
I actually have a 1/48 109G6 and 190A8 being built at ze moment. I'll post some pics for you to laf at in a few weeks.

Snake

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Psi
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posted 06-11- 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Psi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think that's the way they built the 190's Snake...

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