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semmern
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posted 05-05- 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for semmern   Click Here to Email semmern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone seen the sims being developed by Third Wire Productions?? They look friggin great!!



I can't help it, I just dig sims with moody sunsets !

Note: If the above images don't display, go here for them: http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/previews/3rdwire/3rdset/

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semmern
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posted 05-05- 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for semmern   Click Here to Email semmern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, there's some more stuff at www.thirdwire.com

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darthbob
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posted 05-05- 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darthbob   Click Here to Email darthbob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it looks great, i believe that DanW made a post about it in the inspirations topic.

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71hemicuda
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posted 05-05- 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 71hemicuda   Click Here to Email 71hemicuda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey if you like moody sunsets try Janes WWII Fighters it has awesome sunsets and graphics and many of the missions are during the sunsets. I think the game kicks butt besides the graphics. Try this. http://www.janes.ea.com/legends/time_day.html

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Vahnatai
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posted 05-05- 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vahnatai   Click Here to Email Vahnatai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
janes eaw has some of the crappiest graphics of any sim still made (from what ive seen on the box )

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71hemicuda
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posted 05-05- 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 71hemicuda   Click Here to Email 71hemicuda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL yeah but check this out http://www.janes.ea.com/legends/damage_models.html (damage model)
http://www.janes.ea.com/legends/fire.html
(fire)
http://www.janes.ea.com/legends/shadows.html
(shadows notice the shells droppong out) http://www.janes.ea.com/legends/cockpit_dmg.html
(this is cockpit damage)
Now if you still think the grahpics are bad then your crazy man.

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Mirthain
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posted 05-05- 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirthain   Click Here to Email Mirthain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That isn't EAW Vahnatai.... 71 is talking about WW2 Fighters. And that game has some nice graphics. EAW, well, from what I have seen, they just suck graphics wise... but I haven't actually played the game, so take my word with a grain of salt.

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semmern
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posted 05-06- 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for semmern   Click Here to Email semmern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have WWII Fighters and EAW. WWIIF has some kicker graphics, but it stops short there. No linearity in the campaigns, I mean, first you fly a Thunderbolt, then in the next mission you're in a P-38 and such. Flight models also leave a lot to be desired. EAW has a great campaign and oozes atmosphere, but FM is also a bit dodgy. But EAW also has some nice sunsets . And if you wait long enough, just sit on the runway with full time compression, night will come, with a starry sky and all. That's really cool!
Both of them are fun as 'fire-up-once-in-a-while-and-shoot-a-bit-' games, if you know what I mean.

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Blasius1
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posted 05-06- 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blasius1   Click Here to Email Blasius1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said , semmern

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DanW
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posted 05-06- 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DanW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I painted the F104 and the MiG-21.

Another ex-SDOE'er did the F104 model

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DanW
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posted 05-06- 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DanW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, to add to that.

It's really great to be working for someone with this much experience in making sims. Whether you love them or hate them, LongBow 2 and EAW are very highly regarded as 'all time great' flightsims.

There are stories behind both of those sims, and there are also stories about sims that got canned before anyone even knew about them. Unfortunately, signing an NDA means I can't talk about it.

What a I can say, since it has already been said, is that this game will support user addons with ease. 3DS Max and GLMax (i think its that new and upcoming free max from discreet) will be supported. Most of the sim, including terrain will be open for user modification.

I am learning quite a bit about how this industry runs and operates. Sadly, its mostly bad...a very turbulent industry to say the least. The flightsim industry really IS almost gone..contrary to what is being said now. On the surface things look pretty bright, but under the covers, all does not look rosey. Hopefully things will change as the hardware stabilizes. (mostly video cards)
It will take one mega-hit to open the gates back up for development.

Watching a sim get put together piece by piece is pretty neat, as well as having input in what goes into the game. Weighing the options over playability, ease of use, and realism is extremely tough. And in the in, sadly, the box art will sell the majority of the copies. I think we are headed in the right direction in that department though

I do think that with all the talented folks that have been with SDOE during one time or another, there will be a great opportunity to continue these types of efforts in a newer sim with a new gfx engine. Everything that you can do with SDOE you should be able to do with this sim (hopefully). It will be left up to individual talents and imagination.

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Burkey
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posted 05-06- 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Burkey   Click Here to Email Burkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think things like WW2 online will bring the flight sim back. I know flying in that game wont be a sim as such, but surely within 3-4yrs we will have pretty complex 'total war' online play. I envisage a weekly tournament, maybe a televised event (only when graphics truly blow you away) where armies of 200+ take on each other with tank and air support. It would take massive organization, but perhaps people would have to practice offline to gain a certain level of skill (like bootcamp) before they'd be accepted into the game. In effect you'd have to earn your license before you could play. only people who have gained a high degree of experience could put themselves forward for captains roles etc. Maybe people would be hired to take on the general role week in week out.
When this happens, flight sims will come back. First person, Armour and air will all be intergrated into games.

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semmern
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posted 05-06- 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for semmern   Click Here to Email semmern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree! It's really great to see sims being made by dedicated people, really aiming to make a quality product, not only saying they will and when it's released it turns out to be crap. Like the above 'Project 1' as it's called, and Target for Tonight, which seems to be a real kicker.

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