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Topic: What would you do with death sentence inmates if you couldn't kill them?
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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 04-26- 02:58 PM
   
K just a wacky question, I don't know the answer, Just wondering. Let say that most of the public was against the death penatly, Just pretend for a moment. What would you propose we do with them? Besides just throw away the key and such, what would you allow them? Would you put them to work and how? and so on. Design your ideal "natural life sentence" system. I'll leave my opinions till later as I don't want to taint responses.
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Jerry
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posted 04-26- 03:14 PM
Solitary confinement, no TV, no radio, no reading materials. Then give them a rope and a place to hang it. Most will execute themselves in less time than it takes the courts to do it today.IP: Logged |
Smokey
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posted 04-26- 05:02 PM
Hard labor, building prisons to house their
future bros.The work would all be done by hand. Holes,
and footings dug with a shovel, concrete
mixed and pored by hand etc. IP: Logged |
Mirthain
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posted 04-26- 10:05 PM
I think the brit's in the early 1800's had the right idea, make the prison self sufficient. They farm thier food, they make small items for resale in some local flea-market to buy the things they cannot grow and make themselves. Keeps em busy and working and too tired to rebel correctly. ;}
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Jerry
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posted 04-26- 11:12 PM
Mirthain, what you describe is a state supported commune, not a prison. Might as well give them TV and a recreation room too, along with the free medical they get now. Sorry, the standard of living of a convict, especially a murderer, should not be higher than our working poor.IP: Logged |
jgro
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posted 04-27- 08:23 AM
Up here in Wisconsin the govenor reintituted the chain gang. The prisoners do work for the DNR (Department of Natural Resources) digging ditches or whatever on state owned land. I say make them work for their keep.jgro
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Stark
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posted 04-27- 12:41 PM
Lets see... how about medical experiments?  Just kidding!!! -Stark IP: Logged |
Mirthain
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posted 04-27- 07:17 PM
No Jerry, you misunderstand. They have no rights, they get no ammenities.... I am talking about the prison not being totally subsidized by the state, they would have to provide for themselves. They don't get paid, they don't get the privleges they do now. They get to work. Period.
Perhaps reading more about the history of prisons has forged my view of how prisons should be handled. I don't share the humanitarian views of prisons. Hard work, little to no socialization and strict schedules with severe punishment for breaking the rules is my idea of a prison. Not the pathetic excuses that exsist today.
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Smokey
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posted 04-27- 07:30 PM
Stark,You almost raise an interesting subject. I
hear China and some other Asian countries
have a little cottage industry going. They
round up poor smucks, hang a charge on them,
convict them and execute them. They then
sell their organs on the world market. IP: Logged |
Jerry
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posted 04-27- 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by Mirthain:
They farm thier food, they make small items for resale in some local flea-market to buy the things they cannot grow and make themselves. Keeps em busy and working and too tired to rebel correctly. ;}
I know what you're driving at Mirth but it still sounds no different than a farmer's life today. Nope, sorry....this might give them some sense of self worth. Hard labor and no rewards is a better punishment. If I recall my British history it was more a matter of the convict's family having to pay for their room and board. There weren't too many farms in London even in the 1800's. Ever hear of Newgate? IP: Logged |
71hemicuda
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posted 04-27- 10:07 PM
heh jgro what part of WI are you from? I used to live in between Eau claire and La crosseIP: Logged |
Mirthain
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posted 04-27- 10:16 PM
Hey Jerry, did you not read my post's from before? LOL
Yes, I know alot about newgate... and it was the newer gaol's that were doing that and getting some results. I don't think that having them work for thier keep is a bad thing. I think that if they do farmers work and seamstress work and other manual labor jobs, they will perhaps understand that work isn't so bad and a life of crime while easy, just won't give you the satisfaction of work... now of course, I mean for this system to be used for everyone, not just the lifer..... but if we are going to keep him around, I would rather have him working to support himself then just sitting around watching fucking cable tv......Or even just sitting. Make him do what I do. Work. Make him do what everyone does. Work. If he dies in the field, then at least he died doing something. I hate the thought of these people sitting there doing nothing.
THAT Jerry was Newgate. They did nothing but sit around and teach each other new tricks.
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JT
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posted 04-28- 12:05 PM
>Besides just throw away the key and such, what would you allow them? Would you put them to work and how? and so on.I don't think it really matters... Yes, a life sentence does have punitive and deterrent value, but it's mostly a means of removing dangerous people from society. IP: Logged |
Burkey
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posted 05-02- 10:06 AM
I just came across an interesting statistic. For every 7 people on death row, one will be taken off when new evidence is uncovered. The innocent ones better hope the new evidence is uncovered in time.IP: Logged |
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