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Topic: looking for advice on camcorder images
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Brian Cadet
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posted 01-23- 08:51 AM
Hi Guys,I have an 8mm camcorder, and I have been saving my son's first year on the 8mm tape. I would very much like to take the recording and place it in my PC so that I can edit it and ultimately save it on a CD. I'm guessing that I will need to get an in-video or TV card to be able to transfer the recording to my PC, but I would like to get your opinion on which one to buy. Same goes for video editing software that I will need to get. Thanks for your input. IP: Logged |
Rendsburger Pilot
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posted 01-23- 11:01 AM
Brian, what you need is a Mjpeg Board. I (livin in Germany) have the Pinnacle MiroDC10plus with Software included. I think you donīt need the AVmaster or something expensive stuff. You can also use the Matrox Marvel G400. Iīve got my card at ebay (150$) 1998. You also need a fast CPU,min. 128MB RAM and a great HD. If you will copy all the stuff to CDs, you need time and many CDs. Notice, you need 2-3 MB/sec. HD space. Now you have 120/180 MB for every minute Video!!!There is another way you can do. Buy a Sony Digital8 camcorder and an iMacDV, and you have fun for the next years without trouble. Rendsburger IP: Logged |
Tailslide Pilot
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posted 01-23- 01:39 PM
You need to be careful.. most video cards with video in support grabbing only every other frame of video (ie even or odd scan lines at 30fps). Some of the dedicated boxes like the iomega (buzz?) will grab a full 60fps even and odd frames. This results in a more detailed capture. Like Rendsburger says the best results are from a DV setup but its already recorded in 8mm.. TS IP: Logged |
Mighty General
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posted 01-24- 01:41 AM
I have a Matrox G400/TV. It appears to capture okay. But ever since I installed it my machine has been even more flakey than usual. I haven't ended up using it much, so I'm thinking of pulling it and going back to my old card.The software that comes with it is pretty rudimentary. I haven't done a lot of research to find out if there's other software I can use with it. I'm not sure I can recommend it. Though I don't know any alternatives for anywhere close to the price. I suppose if you can put it in a secondary machine and not your primary machine you won't have to deal with the instability all the time. If I were to do it over I'd probably save up/wait for the prices to drop and get a camera with a FireWire output and an input board for the PC. Of course, like you, I already had the camera, so I wasn't able to justify buying a new one. One thing to keep in mind. You can't fit much video on a CD. I believe that you can only expect about 15 minutes or so of medium-quality video. IP: Logged |
Pete Hawk Pilot
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posted 01-24- 02:27 AM
Mighty, if you can convert it to DivX you can. I burned The Matrix onto one standard gold CD, the entire movie.I'm not sure how one would go about doing it since the movie I had was already coded that way, but search the net. Here, just found this helpful thread... http://forums.projectmayo.com/viewtopic.php?topic=104&forum=4 [This message has been edited by Pete Hawk (edited 01-24-2001).] IP: Logged |
Tailslide Pilot
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posted 01-24- 02:36 PM
Divx is a hacked version of the microsoft codec that supports > 56 bit mpeg audio. If you want 56 bit or less audio you're probably better off using the standard microsoft codecs for mp4 video and mp3 audio, then it will play on any computer. Also microsoft has some new beta8 codecs on their that compress even better.. I was able to stream DVD quality from their site over a cable modem with the new codecs. TS IP: Logged |
robert s Pilot
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posted 01-24- 09:44 PM
Brian, Try this article http://www4.tomshardware.com/video/00q3/000913/index.html I built a new machine in December and went with ATI 32 mb All-in-Wonder Radeon card for the purpose of capturing video and having decent gaming. I have captured several flavors of MP2 files from my ATI card and converted some to the MP4 format Tom talks about. I did manage to capture 66 minutes of a camcorder movie (4.1 gb file) and converted it to an MP4 ( 570 mb). I also capture 34 minutes of a lower quality MP2 file that is about 600 mb. However, if you convert to an MP4 format you need play with FlaskMpeg converted to get the voices in sync. I am finding 48 Hz and Divx fast or low motion seems to do it, but I haven't got it quite down yet since I travel alot now. Here are a few other sites. http://www.delphi.com/n/main.asp?webtag=flaskmpeg&nav=start http://www.digital-digest.com/nickyguides/quality.htm Hope this helps some. IP: Logged |
Sport Pilot
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posted 01-24- 11:15 PM
I would suggest you look into the Dazzle products. They have a exellent vidio capture and editing device that connects through a USB port. It also converts analog to digital and digital to analog. {in and out} which could be used in the future if you ever want to transfer your 8mm tapes to DV camcorder tape. About $200. with rebate US. Good luck!
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Tailslide Pilot
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posted 01-25- 02:38 AM
robert s - check out the older version of "windows media encoder" from the microsoft site.. it's a free download and will capture mpeg4 directly from most cards. TS
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Brian Cadet
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posted 01-25- 07:41 AM
Thank you all, for your ideas. Keep them comming!IP: Logged |
robert s Pilot
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posted 02-03- 05:39 PM
Tailslide Thanks for the tip. I download the windows encoder and found it doesn't work. I thought it was something I did, but instead its ATI's fault. Apparently, they know that the ATI cards will not support the windows encoder. Just an FYI for everyone considering an ATI card, you might have some compatibility issues when recording video. Despite some limitations I have been happy with the Radeon card. However, ATI customer service still sucks.IP: Logged |