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Smokey
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posted 12-26- 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smokey   Click Here to Email Smokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am thinking about getting a cable connection.
I have 2 computers. I asked the cable Co.
what I needed to do and they said to get a
hub and the cable would hook into the hub.
This seemed to be all they knew about it.

I know nothing about networking. Is it
correct that I have to network my 2 computers
and then run out of the hub to the cable
modem?

If I have to get a network, what is a good
network to get? A while back Best Buy had
an Ethernet setup for $150. Does anybody know
if this is any good? Any help would be
appreciated.

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Da Jug head
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posted 12-26- 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky just went through this hooking his computer and his brothers to a cable modem. Ask him.

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That answered my question

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Stark
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posted 12-26- 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Smokey,

Any of the Ethernet Satrtup kits available (theres quite a few of them) will work for you... they range in price from about $80 - $200. If you plan on expanding your network later look for a kit that has 10/100 Hub and Nics (Network Interface Card) - this will allow your PC's to communicate at 100MBps between each other as opposed to 10MBps. You will need to hook the cable modem into the uplink port on your hub (usually the last port on the hub can operate in uplink mode). Connect each PC to the hub and configure TCPI/IP on your machines. Done. Sounds simple... but depending on your TCP/IP configuration it can be a pain... but usually it isn't.

-Stark

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Stark
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posted 12-26- 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me again...

If you want some decent quality yet inexpensive equipment I can recommend the following having used them myself:

Hub: New Media 5 Port 10/100 $54.99 on Insight.com. Decent little hub I use at home, inexpensive, reliable, and good performance.

NIC's: NetGear FA310X 10/100 PCI NIC $18.99 ea. on insight.com. Good performance for a great price. Use them both at home and at work (I'm a Network Administrator).

-Stark

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Smokey
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posted 12-26- 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smokey   Click Here to Email Smokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jug, I saved a copy of Spank's thread to
use for reference. Didn't understand most of
it though.

Thanks much for your help Stark. I guess I'll
give it a go.

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nealg
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posted 12-26- 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nealg   Click Here to Email nealg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can second that on the Netgear FA310; use that myself on our DSL connection ( also use the Netgear hub ). Still good, low price.

Most good tech sites, tweak sites, and gaming sites have guides and tutorials now on networking, also. Check a few for guidelines, like Toms' Hardware guide, SysOpt, Sharky Extreme, Thresh's Firing Squad, Tweak3D, NAVAS group, timhiggins.com...there are a bunch, and most of the info is the same from site to site.

Good luck, and happy networking!

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 12-27- 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

Well our setup was working great until a virus struck us both ( i don't think the network was the problem) and now we have to set it up again.

We were using sygate trialware to connect. It was pretty cool.

I'm using a $70 canadain kit. It came with a dlink 5 port hub and 2 nics and 2 cat 5 maybe 15-20 foot cables and some bnc plugs i guess for if ya wanted to go that route.

I would say go for a kick most definatly to save money. One even came with the sygate software for free for 100$ but i couldn't return it and only need this setup for a couple weeks.

If I was serious about networking I would get one of those 5 port hub/switches that you can get for a couple hundred.

Anyways buy at a place woudl a good return policy and use it if you have any problems.

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Mighty
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posted 12-27- 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mighty   Click Here to Email Mighty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would STRONGLY recommend a firewall of some kind. Always-on connections like DSL and cable modems are prime targets for malicious trouble-makers. They just go down the list of IP addresses and see if they can find computers with their drives shared.

I didn't recommend that to Spanky because his setup sounded temporary and he didn't want to spend any money.

Personally, I have an old 486 that I put Linux on for my firewall. There are now several standalone boxes for under $200 that do the same thing. ZDNet would be one place to look for recommendations. I'm sure people here can come up with other sites to check.

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Mighty
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posted 12-27- 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mighty   Click Here to Email Mighty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't used this, but here's an example of the kind of firewall device I was talking about
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004SB92

It comes with a built-in 4-port 10/100 hub, so for just a couple of computers it would save you from having to buy a separate hub.

[This message has been edited by Mighty (edited 12-27-2000).]

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nealg
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posted 12-28- 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nealg   Click Here to Email nealg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In conjunction with that, I have found what appears to be a good site for information - the ShieldsUp site. http://grc.com/su-bondage.htm

Contains interesting info on ports and how you can configure Windows Networking to cut down on hacking. IMO, worth checking.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 12-28- 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here..

Yeah mighty thats exactly what i was talking about. Thats what I would get if it was a permanent setup.

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Smokey
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posted 12-28- 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smokey   Click Here to Email Smokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Mighty. Jug Head posted this in
Spanky's thread:

Also, get Zonealarm. It's free firewall software that will keep someone from hacking your computers when you're online for a long time. (I get pinged at least a dozen times each day). the url is http://www.zonelabs.com/

Do you think something like this is good enough
or do you need something else?

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Stark
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posted 12-28- 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zonealarm will defeat your common port probing dweeb but will probably not stop somevody who really knows what they are doing and has the desire to screw with you.

For most applications ZoneAlarm is sufficient. If you plan on running any servers (FTP, HTTP, or otherwise) I would recommend going with a more robust solution - like a stand alone firewall. The advantage to the standalone is that it would take a great deal of effort for a hacker to even know that your computer is behind the firewall, let alone get to it.

-Stark

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Smokey
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posted 01-02- 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Smokey   Click Here to Email Smokey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got it up and runnin'. I settled on a net-
gear FA311 kit. Gives me a 10\100 network
for my 2 computers. I'm supposed to get a
cable internet connection Friday afternoon.
Hopefully everything will work OK. Thanks
for all your help.

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