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Blasius1 Pilot	posted 12-03- 09:13 AM men , this was very hard to hear . u can remember, when chrysler and mercedes benz merried. now i see a report from the usa , in this report many worker told from his problems , and they found a reason. the greatest thing is , they have not more a american leadership.this damn german men , jürgen schrempf is his name ,(i know, he is a icecold manager) , what he want in the usa ?, go back to germany . i know , many companys here in europe have a US leadership, we have no problems with it , but why the us people with a european ? go home nasty german , go home . ------------------ IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 12-03- 01:11 PM In the US we're not used to foreigners telling us what to do. If you look at European history, you make a habit of one country trying to tell another what to do, be it through wars, post-war US influence or Russian dominance in Eastern Europe. You're used to it. (tongue planted firmly in cheek....but not too far from the truth). IP: Logged
Blasius1 Pilot	posted 12-03- 04:10 PM good answer, jerry, i understand. ------------------ IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 12-03- 05:53 PM Good ole U.S. dominance! Actually, ALOT of the goods sold here in the U.S. are from the outside. (Other countries) We depend ALOT on imported goods to support our ever growing economy. So the idea of forigners controlling the products we actually make here in the U.S. and sell IS a bit scary to some people. IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 12-04- 12:54 AM Spanky here... It cracks me up that a german car company is now telling a US one what to do. LOL IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 12-04- 01:28 AM Why does that crack you up? German cars have been outstanding for years. The Beetle is a legend, Mecedes Benz (sp?), BMW. How many Canadian cars are in that class, or in any class? Or do you just get a sadistic thrill, like most of the world, when the US isn't the best in the world all the time in everything? IP: Logged
wakeup tailgunner Pilot	posted 12-04- 05:31 AM And, apart from cars, jet planes, and rockets, What have the Germans ever done for us.... ( from ze life of Herr Brian) IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 12-04- 07:45 AM But us Americans brought the world the first controlled flying aircraft, the light bulb and the telephone. Didnt we also invent the modern computer? P.S. I have nothing against German cars. I rather like their designs. [This message has been edited by ArgonV (edited 12-04-2000).] IP: Logged
Pachy Pilot	posted 12-04- 08:51 AM Interesting thread... Talking about the car industry, here the press applauded when Renault bought Nissan. But it made me wonder, if I was Japanese and suddenly, some guy who does not speak my language comes in, fires everyone and closes the factory, how would I react? This trend (companies buying each other, merging etc.) worries me a lot. The work and life of hundreds of citizens suddenly are in the hands of people who are totally out of reach. Companies become more powerful than countries. Capitalism becomes a threat to democracy. Chilling, huh? IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 12-04- 11:10 AM Spanky here... Yep jerry the german cars are great cars. Much better then american ones. And yes I do like it when the US isn't leading in everything. I love it infact. Help keeps your head small. IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 12-04- 12:25 PM Well thank you Spanky, I would rather have a small head and live in great, powerful and rich country than a large head like yours and live in the frozen tundra of a 2nd rate economic power. Hell, we have States with more clout than Canada. By the way, if American cars are so bad why don't you drive Canadian cars. Oh, that's right, there are no Canadian cars. Just US cars that we let you build. Why is that Spanky? Of course, you could sit home and not drive. That would give you more time to play on your Canadian computer. Oh, that's right. There are no Canadian computers either. hmmm...just what exactly do you guys make, besides hockey sticks. (Note to all other Candians: Please don't take offense. I am only trying to piss on Spanky. He's the only one of you who seems to take delight in slamming the US.) IP: Logged
Sv Pilot	posted 12-04- 01:19 PM Never take my BMW away, but... America knows how to love cars. The '50s was the most magic time for cars - not in terms of performance, but in terms of their attachment to culture. And these were American cars - made the way only Americans could make them. Then, thanks to liberalism and the energy crisis it was all gone. Do you know that convertibles were once illegal in America, the land of the free? Let this never happen again... IP: Logged
Sunray Pilot	posted 12-09- 06:25 PM Argon, the telephone was invented in Canada by a Scottish imigrant named Alexander Bell. Not in the States. It was first shown to the world in the States at one of the World's Fairs but not invented there. IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 12-09- 06:54 PM Sunray, I did not know that. What country was the toilet or "John" invented in? IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 12-09- 08:08 PM Sunray, you remind me of Ensign Checkov in Star Trek. He claimed everything was invented in Russia. The facts, if you care to look them up, are that Scottish born Alexander Graham Bell immigrated to Canada in 1870. A year later, in 1871, he immigrated to the United States where he taught mutes and opened in school for the deaf in Boston, Mass. It was while in Boston that he invented the telephone. It was 1876 when he first transmitted his voice over wires to his assistant, Mr. Watson - five years after leaving Canada. Did you study history at the same school as Kopper? IP: Logged
Burkey Pilot	posted 12-09- 08:18 PM American cars, well apart from ford, dont make that much impression in Europe. German owns all, including all the luxury British cars (HA, HA!) Japanese as well. American cars all look like aircraft carriers Whats with the wood panels (or is that just Starsky and Hutch?) IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 12-09- 08:25 PM Jerry thanks for clearing that up! I thought I was right about him inventing the tele in the USA..... I was confused there for a while.... IP: Logged
Commando Pilot	posted 12-09- 08:30 PM But you didn't invent the computer, the first electronic computer was built in the UK, it was so top secret no one had heard of it until after the US developed theirs, too late then to take the credit. IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 12-09- 08:36 PM Commando.... I hope that was not a serious remark... IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 12-09- 08:51 PM That's OK Burkey. Most European cars look like roller skates. IP: Logged
Burkey Pilot	posted 12-09- 09:11 PM Hmmm. Can't really argue with that... IP: Logged
smoketrail@6 Cadet	posted 12-09- 09:22 PM "Bell always said that the telephone was conceived in Brantford, Ontario and born in Boston, Massachusetts. As a young man, Bell frequently fled the heat of Boston to join his parents at their home in Tutelo Heights, just south of Brantford." "One day in July, 1874, as Bell was in his "dreaming place," in Brantford (otnario), the basic principle of the telephone came to him in a sudden flash of original insight. He and his father spent long hours discussing the possibilities of his new discovery. " The first telephone was built in Boston. However, Bell had only tested his new device across wires set up between rooms. He did not yet know whether the messages could be transmitted on telegraph wires. He decided to test the concept on a visit to Brantford in 1876. On August 4, Bell sent a message from Mount Pleasant to Brantford, a distance of five miles. His fame and fortune were assured. " Damn schools in both countries never get it right. IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 12-10- 01:56 AM Actually, his fame and fortune weren't assured. The message between Brantford and Paris, Ont. was one-way only. The first two-way long distance conversation was two months later between Boston and Cambridge, Mass. Besides, what goes on a birth certificate is where you are born, not where you were conceived. I can see it now - Place of Birth: Backseat, 1957 Chevrolet [This message has been edited by Jerry (edited 12-10-2000).] IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 12-10- 05:11 AM Spanky here... I'm so coo cause people in my country made stuff first. LOL Whatever boys. Fact is chrysler messed up and ended up in a position that they needed help. IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 12-10- 02:18 PM Yes, Chrysler appears to be messed up. Either Chrysler was already messed up when Daimler bought it meaning a lot of American's got rich because the German's didn't know what they were buying or, Chrysler got messed up after the Germans bought it meaning the Germans are the ones who messed it up. In either case the Germans have no one to blame but themselves. In the meantime, Chrysler is still building cars by Americans for Americans and the Germans are losing their ass. Sorry to disappoint you Spanky but the US is not the one with the bloody nose here. IP: Logged
Commando Pilot	posted 12-10- 02:21 PM Sorry Aladar I am not Joshing, see this link http://www.picotech.com/applications/colossus.html and this one http://ebooks.whsmithonline.co.uk/encyclopedia/25/A0004025.htm [This message has been edited by Commando (edited 12-10-2000).] IP: Logged
Blasius1 Pilot	posted 12-11- 01:15 AM god like only the proud USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! right jerry????????????????????????????? no, forget it . ------------------ IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 12-11- 01:33 AM Sorry Blasius, I don't understand. IP: Logged
hip63 Pilot	posted 12-11- 07:54 PM I don't really care where my phone came from, I don't care where my car came from, I'm just glad I've got'em, (the UPside of being poor! ) I am an American & travelled a great deal of it, but I also lived in Germany for a couple of years, been to England, been to Mexico, been to Canada, & all I can say is that there are worthy people, places & things everywhere I go (not to mention, I have found great food TOO! ) hip63 IP: Logged

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