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Gunner
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posted 11-27- 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gunner   Click Here to Email Gunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which one is best? I am getting one or the other so let me have it.

I have CFS2, and will have B17II. And of course SDOE. And soon Silent HunterII.

What would be the best all around card?

-=BAB=- Gunner

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Whirlwind
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posted 11-27- 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It all comes down to which one is cheaper.

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Tailslide
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posted 11-27- 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The new voodoo cards are running the gpu's in parallel. So if there are 4 processors and the card says it has 128 megs you only get 32 megs of usable texture memory.

TS

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Da Jug head
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posted 11-27- 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How much room do you have for extra fans? The GeForce will run cooler than the Voodo

Besides, if you go to sharkyextreme or tomshardware, the Geforce is better at higher res than the Voodoo.

Last Nvidia's 2D display is crisper than the Voodoo's too.

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Gunner
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posted 11-27- 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gunner   Click Here to Email Gunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well then, is there a big advantage in the upgrade from a 32mb Gforce?
I was leaning toward the Gforce.

The damn things are $250.

-=BAB=- Gunner

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Da Jug head
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posted 11-27- 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're right, this is a big investment. Here's my advice-

Read these two reviews at Sharkyextreme.
SuperHigh End 3D Card Shootout, covers the Radeon 64MB and GeForce2 GTS 64MB cards http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/articles/super_he_video_shootout_10-00/

The the Hi End Video Card Shootout article which talks about the 32MB Radeons and GeForces and a 64MB Voodoo 5 http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/articles/he_video_shootout_10-00/

I'd click on the graphs and save them so you can do a side by side comparism of speed.

There are also other things to consider-
T&L support
Radeon Yes
GeForce Yes
Voodoo No

Harware DVD playback
Radeon Yes
GeForce No
Voodoo No

32 bit rendering
Radeon Yes
GeForce Yes
Voodoo No

Image quality, Full screen anti-aliasing, video out, and a lot of other factors are covered in these reviews.

For some reason the sharky website is slow right now, so you may want to check it during off peak hours.

Good Luck and Good Hunting

[This message has been edited by Da Jug head (edited 11-27-2000).]

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d0gmA
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posted 11-27- 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for d0gmA   Click Here to Email d0gmA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are primarily playing sims then you really have to consider the Voodoo5 and its FSAA as it blows away the GeForce 2 for most sims on the market.

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ZooL
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posted 11-27- 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ZooL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i wouldnt upgrade now, the nv20's are right around the corner.....thats unless you dont care and want whats best right now which would be the geforce 2 ultra.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 11-27- 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

If you already have a geforce Then I'm not sure I would bother upgrading vid cards right now.

There is so many freaking Gforces out there.

Which one do you have and which one are you considering?

Are you talking about the gforce 2?

Whats the rest of your computer?

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Gunner
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posted 11-28- 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gunner   Click Here to Email Gunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know the exact model but I do know it is a Gforce 32mb.

Is the extra 32mb worth the cash?

The rest: 256m 133ram, 1 gig CPU, 30gig HD.

Christmas comming up and I wanted to upgrade if it is worth it.

-=BAB=- Gunner

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Whirlwind
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posted 11-28- 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Er, the V5 does 32-bit. The V3's did not. Also, Onvia has V5 5500's for $177 with free shipping.

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Da Jug head
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posted 11-28- 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
V5's do 32 bit? Then there's a BIG problen with the drivers. The reviews I've seen all say the card wouldn't run when they tried to run a game in 32bit

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Whirlwind
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posted 11-28- 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, how else did Tom at Tom's Hardware get bench numbers for the V5 for 32-bit . The V3 does not do 32-bit. It does do 22-bit..

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Gunner
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posted 11-28- 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gunner   Click Here to Email Gunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I want to know is there that big of a difference to warrent the upgrade?

I can read about it all day but I want to hear from people that have upgraded and can tell me if the cost is warrented.

-=BAB=- Gunner

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Tailslide
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posted 11-28- 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I have a geforce 2 GTS and am very happy with it since I prefer to run games at very hi res 1600x1200 and the hires performance is phenomenal.

TS

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Werner Molders
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posted 11-28- 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in the same boat as Gunner here, but thoroughly confused by the above. I play sdoe (in glide, which I still want to be able to do), Hidden and Dangerous, IL2 (soon), etc. What is the best card for me? Btw, I have a Voodoo Banshee now, so does that mean I'd have to get a new MB to switch to a Geforce?

I hate hardware!

Werner

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Gunner
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posted 11-30- 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gunner   Click Here to Email Gunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nobody wants to step up and advise me I see.

YOUR ALL WORTHLESS AND WEAK

Just kidding

-=BAB=- Gunner

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Pete Hawk
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posted 11-30- 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello?

Guys come on! For $129 at Best Buy the Hercules Prophet II Geforce2 MX KICKS ASS!

It runs D3D and OpenGL games GREAT, and also works fantastically for things like 3DS Max 3. The FPS issue is only very slightly less (4-5 fps) than a $400+ dollar Geforce DDR and GTS. It's MASSIVE bang for your buck!

Gunner, get what I have, you'll love it and have money left over.

[This message has been edited by Pete Hawk (edited 11-30-2000).]

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 11-30- 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here...

Yep the MX sounds like a good idea gunner, I was considering one.

Now that I can't affored a new chip and board i'm considering the MX to hold me over for a while

should be quite the upgrade from a banshee.

I'll REALLY miss glide support though.

SUcks

Maybe pick up some extra ram with the money you save over the more expensive geforce2s.

more ram is always a good thing it seems.

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Whirlwind
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posted 11-30- 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For $50 more, he can get a V5 5500. I still am not pleased with nVidia's odd driver quirks - the occasional 1/2 screen image shift or flicker, weekly drivers, and unpredictable game compatability. I have a Asus 7100 MX/2VID running nVidia OEM drivers. My MB doesn't have the juice to supply to the second video out . At least I was smart and snagged a pair of V2's to cover for the weirdness. When it works, the MX looks great in game.

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Spanky the Mad Dog
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posted 11-30- 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky the Mad Dog   Click Here to Email Spanky the Mad Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky here..

I hear ya Whirl but from what i hear the newer voodoos have there own driver quirks too.

I personally never upgrade my drivers.

It always leads to trouble.

I'm still running voodoo banshee reference drivers with my card or the drivers that shipped with it, even though there has been numerous updates to them.

I'm thinking of buying an MX this weekend and trying it out for a week. If i'm not impressed I'll just take it back.

Staples here has a 10 day full money back no questions return.

Why don't you guys take advantage of taht stuff?

Buy the MX and the voodoo 4500 if you can free up the cash. then return the one you like less.

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