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Aladar Pilot	posted 09-16- 11:21 PM OH MY GOD, I MUST HAVE A BRAIN TUMOR OR SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY GOD, I GOTTA CALM DOWN, OH BUT I CANT ITS TOO SERIOUS OF A PROBLEM, HELP ME I WANNA BUY CFS2!!!!!!!!!!! I'M POSESSED!!!!!!!!!! QUICK, GET ME SOME HOLY WATER!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE DONT VIEW THIS SITE OR IT MAY GET YOU TOO!!!!!! http://cfs2.dogfighter.com/p40_preview.htm ------------------ "Don't move, if we scatter, he'll pick us off! Stand Together!"~~Aladar 28 times to see Dinosaur and counting!! IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 09-16- 11:46 PM I remember when you said it sucked. ROFLMAO! IP: Logged
Mirthain Pilot	posted 09-16- 11:56 PM Well, it does look better than it did about a month ago.. but I am still skeptical. I will wait till it is released and then say.... the original was garbage.... I can't say if this will be the same or not... spin doctors can do an awful lot with very little.... Mirthain=FC= IP: Logged
Werner Molders Pilot	posted 09-17- 12:53 AM Aladar, buddy... Imo that Warhawk doesn't look remarkably better than other cfs2 aircraft did not that long ago, and the water isn't very impressive. I had to laugh when I saw the large version of the image touting cockpit detail. LOL!! They should look at sdoe's cockpits from that distance! Whateva, I think cfs2 is a cash grab myself. New hull, old chassis. I'm looking forward to IL2. Werner ------------------ Visit Abbeville Field Today! IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 09-17- 01:14 AM FYI, I posted a few new shots today from CFS 2 as well. TS ------------------ Patch It! www.airsims.com IP: Logged
Jon Wold Cadet	posted 09-17- 03:14 AM Hi, actually, the P-40 previewed on my site is for FS2000, it is probably not as good as the stock CFS2 planes will be, but what makes it so special is that no P-40 exists for FS2000 that's worth mentioning, exept for this one. All FS2000 planes will be easily imported to CFS2. (which has for some strange reason exlcuded the p-40 both as flyable and AI.) The screenshots I have on my site are exclusive, no one else has them, and they are truly breathtaking. They are from a version far more complete than the beta, and it shows why this will be the sim of the year. Trust me, come October, this sim will be on every combatsimmers harddrive. Join the party at http://cfs2.dogfighter.com! Clear skies and tailwinds, JON WOLD. IP: Logged
Johannes Pilot	posted 09-17- 03:42 AM Aladar, don t waste your money for CFS2. regards johannes ------------------ IP: Logged
AGAS - 5 Pilot	posted 09-17- 03:45 AM Welcome Jon....here for some education are we Congrats on the P40 .....LOOKS nice.... I look forward to seeing progress made to flight sims.....It can only be for the good of our broader community....however, one must maintain standards, and I'm afraid Microflop's products do not reach those of FSDOE's Cheers [This message has been edited by AGAS - 5 (edited 09-18-2000).] IP: Logged
JG3_Jetlag Pilot	posted 09-17- 04:29 AM {SLAP} IP: Logged
semmern Pilot	posted 09-17- 07:12 AM And they quote that "this is the last thing many Japanese and Chinese aircraft saw. Heh.....need a history lesson, do we? The AVG's P-40's wore Peoples Republic of CHINA markings [This message has been edited by semmern (edited 09-17-2000).] IP: Logged
Commando Pilot	posted 09-17- 08:58 AM If anyone does buy this thing can they at least do some good and send me the sound files, I read a review and the only thing of any interest to me was the improved sounds recorded using the Confederate Airforce Planes. If not I will have buy my own copy, the only Microsoft software I have ever bought other than operating software. ------------------ IP: Logged
Pete Hawk Pilot	posted 09-17- 09:04 AM Ok, I gotta say something. My work got the CFS-II beta for review and quite honestly, it's CFS with a facelift and new terrain. Same ol flight models in there (at least it feels that way to me) and personally I just STILL do not like it. Don't let my opinion ruin it for you though, if you are really intrigued by it then go get it when it comes out and try it for yourself. For me personally SDOE has nothing to fear and is still the king on my PC. The only really nice thing are the skies and clouds but other than that, it just doesn't do it for me. Sorry to burst any bubbles. Jon, I just read your post again. We shall see. Beauty is one thing but if the feeling isn't right it's not a keeper in my book. I do understand that many love CFS so I'm sure that crowd will be happy, but to die hard SDOE fans, we'll we have to just see what they think when it's out. I really wish Microsoft would do away with the game engine they keep working on and revamping with each new release and just do a completely new game engine. I do have to give MS some credit though. I just bought Crimson Skies and although it's NOT a true sim, it's a hell of alot of fun! Beautiful graphics, very nice and very smooth on my old PII 450 and TNT 1 card. [This message has been edited by Pete Hawk (edited 09-17-2000).] IP: Logged
Whirlwind Pilot	posted 09-17- 09:12 AM I watched SpeedVision's WWII's Greatest Airctafy and I have to stay with SDOE since we can make the planes look as good as that crystal clear fottage they had. I was in 'OMFG - THAT IS AWESOME!' mode durting the 30 minutes I caught of it. Me-262, Meteor, Komet, P-47,P-38,P-51,Fw-190x, Beuaf (pronounced by the Brit 'Bowfighter'), and Mosquito. The fottage was awesome - you could spot the divits in the tail of the FW-190. BTW: CS was coded by Zipper, not MS [This message has been edited by Whirlwind (edited 09-17-2000).] IP: Logged
wakeup tailgunner Pilot	posted 09-17- 02:47 PM Must admit, I found CFS a bit of a let-down, and I don't see any of it's hassles being fixed in CFS2 The planes lacked 'feel' and they were way to samey. The look of he game may have been improved, but that wears off after about 10 minutes..... Not only that, but for me, SDOE allows good terrain, and planes that look pretty damn good. There are better looking sims on the way...... I've put a certain IL2 game on my christmas list....... Save your money for that, it looks pretty damn good! IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 09-17- 03:14 PM Agree with Pete and tailgunner on this one.. IL-2 and BoB have a higher "drool factor" for me at the moment. Probably IL-2 for online play and BoB for offline play unless BoB is as buggy as mig alley was. TS ------------------ Patch It! www.airsims.com IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 09-17- 03:22 PM Spanky here... I have the CFS2 beta, its nothing special Any new Flight sim is going to blow this out of the water, The only good part about it is that its set in the pacific. But we are more then halfway to a full pac theater here so... Aladar, just wait until the P40 Falck started is finished and you won't drool over CFS2 again. IP: Logged
Whirlwind Pilot	posted 09-17- 03:53 PM Hmmmm... been playing with my bud Wimpy. He had a bit of trouble taking off, but after tweaking the props a bit and putting the right wings on him, he had a good time taking a short flight over the channel. He still needs the proper flaps done, as well as proper airlons and horizontal stabs, but he is still fun to play with. He doesn't like CFS2 since he can't fly in it at all so you should keep looking for the ultimate sim. I'd post some pictures of my bud wimpy, but he hasn't the proper cloth's for the occasion. IP: Logged
Jon Wold Cadet	posted 09-17- 05:46 PM I'm not here to start a rhubarb folks, I just think you should consider the following facts: - I have never played SDOE. Maybe I have missed out on a great game, I really have no Idea, maybe I'll look into it someday. I didn't know you could add scenery and planes to that sim as well. -People have different taste in flight sims. It's that simple. -The CFS2 beta you all have seen is nothing. Check out the four new shots, with hardware full-scene antialiasing put on top of that detail, no sim can match this. -Remember that CFSI is nearly two years old! -Who's it gonna compete with? IL2 probably won't be out until spring. (I'll be standing first in line in the shops for that one though...) B-17 looks outdated by now, and there's no multiplayer. BoB by Rowan looks like it should have been published last year. It also seems to me like your bashing it because it bears the MS name? I don't think Bill Gates is anything but a geek, but he has done more to cure diseases in this world than any whole country ever has, and his boys make terrific games, I wasted the better part of my adult life on Age of empires I and II Completely unrelated, "just shoot me" is on TV here in Norway right now. Gotta go. Tailwinds, JON ------------------ [b]JON WOLD http://cfs2.dogfighter.com [b] IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 09-17- 06:00 PM 1. I played CFS which had some fundamental flaws and was the least enjoyable for me of any of the WW2 sims last year. 2. CFS2 is CFS with mostly graphical improvments and multiplayer cheats fixed. 3. CFS2 does not support team missions online so online play will not hold my interest in the long term. 4. CFS2 although fixing bugs in the AI does not teach them to fly ACM manouvers so offline play will have limited appeal for me. TS ------------------ Patch It! www.airsims.com IP: Logged
DanW Pilot	posted 09-17- 07:02 PM Jon, Hope you gotta flame proof suit on....LOL I must admit that the planes in CFS2 screenies are gorgeous...........but.... what about those crappy 2 cockpits? They need to ditch that and go 3D only. Plus, its built off the FS2K engine which runs crappy even on a fast computer. You won't get that EAW immersive feel either (hopefully B17II has that). So really, there's not much to get worked up over. Some canned missions, a cheap mission editor and free play on the gaming zone is about all you get. I think I'll pass on it which is unusual for me, since I like to buy (almost) every sim that comes out. Regurugitated flight simulator engine does not appeal to me at all. And for their sake, I hope they tuned the collision detection from CFS1, cause it was terrible. Sorry, but I dont think you will see any of these SDOE diehards bailing for CFS2. IP: Logged
Mirthain Pilot	posted 09-17- 09:46 PM Well, You should really play this sim. You will understand why we are very sceptical about CFS2. One of the biggest problems with CFS and even the FS sims were the FM's of the aircraft. I understand your point about the rendering engine, but that is not what a flight sim is based on. when you get into a game and you actually feel like you are flying... that is a SIM! This looks nice, but the community of FS and CFS just don't have the aircraft builders who really concentrate on the flight model enough. We do have our fair share of problems, show me a sim that doesn't, but when you fly a Spit IV Vs a 109E here, you are going to clear you hard drive space of CFS. I gaurantee it. Perhaps the eye candy of CFS2 is good enough to draw lots more folks, but unless the planes attention to Flight detail is brought up to speed, then I really don't see myself changing my ww2 sim choice. I must say though, The bailing Japanese pilot was pretty cool. Mirthain=FC= IP: Logged
Jon Wold Cadet	posted 09-18- 05:48 PM I dont think the framrates will be the problem they were in FS2K. They have after all had more than a year to refine the engine, and the pacific will contain not that much landscape, mostly islands and water, water, water.. I'm not that much of a multiplayer, I guess that's what you all like sop much about SDOE. Something completely unrelated, I received two sets of Game Voice today, and it is really quite cool. I never had a problem with using keys while I fly, but after a little fooling around with this thing, screaming "BAIL OUT" and actcually doing so, with my hands firmly on the stick is pretty cool! I tried it with Unreal Tournament also... I thought it was cool when I programmed it so that when I said "Cover me" They actually came running like the AI cowards they are... I'm off flying, hope you boys will drop a note in my forum, maybe you are able to persuade some battle hardened CFS pilots to try SDOE? IP: Logged
JG51_GIJeff_<<+ Cadet	posted 10-15- 01:26 PM Hi Guys, I think alot of ppl are unfairly judging CFS2 on CFS1's performance. It is much improved and alot of the original problems with CFS are addressed. I was VERY impressed with the FM for CFS2, you can SLIP the freaking plane in it. Show me that in SDOE, EAW, or any other combat sim. I LIKE that they used the FS2k stuff, that means planes are mucho importable, also the planes from CFS will import as well, so all we need is terrain and we can have European theater operations. I understand the FS2k program for rendering new planes is EASY to use, which OP ain't. I think this sim has ALOT of potential. Am considering moving from SDOE to CFS2. Hopefully someone will deal with the only 8 player multi and give us european terrain, but even without it it is a good buy at the $40 I payed. JG51_GIJeff_<<+ IP: Logged
Tailslide Pilot	posted 10-15- 02:42 PM Hi Jeff, the online play is still limited to furballs so I don't think I'll be playing it online for years like I have been with SDOE. It's a very solid game though. I posted a review of the released version if you're interested its on my site. TS ------------------ Patch It! www.airsims.com IP: Logged
Poniat Pilot	posted 10-15- 05:57 PM double post [This message has been edited by Poniat (edited 10-15-2000).] IP: Logged
Poniat Pilot	posted 10-15- 05:58 PM Commando, u da maan! You are my hero, I can't say the same as you, I also bought the FS98 and the CFS (numero uno) , but I would like to! Cheers ------------------ 9./JG3_Poniat IP: Logged
Sv Pilot	posted 10-15- 08:42 PM The best thing CFS2 has is a large community. It just goes to show how awesome SDOE is that such a small community stays so active. Aparently for some people there is no replacement for SDOE. I love Bill Gates and Microsoft, but I think that that CFS was pretty poor. I did like the scenery allot though, I am a photo-real guy at heart. Also the better engine modeling adds to the immersion factor. I have not read allot or tried CFS2, I look forward to seeing what it can do. Even if flight models are better, I bet there is no real advanced inertia modeling like we have with SDOE. Ground handling can be a blast - just taking off and landing is a thrill! But the one thing that prevents me from playing the likes of CFS is the lack of real 3D cockpits. I mouse pan, and I want to be in a cockpit. My dream is to be in a 3d cockpit that looks as good as the Fly! 2D cockpits. SDOE could do this if if we had a wee bit more texture memory to work with on the video card ------------------ -Sv =FC= WWI in SDOE! IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 10-15- 10:43 PM Um Sv... where have you ben?!?!? CFS2 HAS 3d cockpits! Also, they do model inertia... but not the way we do. IP: Logged
Sv Pilot	posted 10-15- 11:20 PM That look as good as SDOE and are mouse-panable? If so then I am there! CFS1 had unusable 3d cockpits - they look SO bad and if you scroll it takes like 5 minutes to do a 180 sweep, same as FUIII -Sv IP: Logged
ArgonV Pilot	posted 10-16- 12:49 AM They look pretty good. Not as good (IMO) but pretty darn good. Dont know about the mouse. You can fly with it so you may beable to pad with it. Scrolling is alot faster too! IP: Logged

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