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Zurawski Pilot	posted 06-07- 09:45 AM Here's the link: http://www.ga-source.com/all/news/bits/05+07+2000/0:20:29.shtml IP: Logged
charmstar Pilot	posted 06-07- 12:35 PM And did you notice the rcsimulator site has been updated. They are talking about an August release! I wonder what that means for our long awaited patch... I also wonder what the game will be like! charm IP: Logged
Michael Harrison General	posted 06-07- 12:42 PM And Evil Avatar thought he'd chime in as well... http://www.evilavatar.com/redirected.asp?fromurl=http%3A//www.evilavatar.com/EA/News/M9921/default.htm Evidently he's forgotten that we didn't ignore the beta feedback. We weren't making those decisions. IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 06-07- 01:30 PM Spanky here.. Actually I like that kind of reporting, Keep you game makers on your toes. IP: Logged
Michael Harrison General	posted 06-07- 01:36 PM Spanky, that's not reporting. Most of what he says is editorializing. That he got the facts wrong doesn't help. IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 06-07- 04:16 PM Spanky here... Well What I like is that he linked back to the past. He is saying that SDOE was a failure and that he can't see RC sim doing much better. Whos fault that was doesn't matter, If it was the Pub or dev doesn't matter to the general public. What does matter is that it will push you guys harder to put out a better product. At least thats what I'm hoping. If your disagree with what he says or how he says it why don't you respond? IP: Logged
Michael Harrison General	posted 06-07- 05:43 PM I haven't responded on his board partly because I don't have the energy to get into a pissing match with EA over why it went out the way it did. Most people who cover gaming already know why (and I know that he does too, although it seems to have slipped his mind). "He is saying that SDOE was a failure and that he can't see RC sim doing much better." That's not what he wrote. Had he made such a simple statement, I wouldn't have commented on it at all. He's entitled to his opinion after all. IP: Logged
Michael Harrison General	posted 06-07- 06:25 PM Charm.. What it means for the patch is that all the graphics bugs will be fixed before then, at the very least. One thing to keep in mind is that RC Simulator is more about learning to fly RC planes and honing your RC skill than it is a "game". It's not intended more as a trainer than a source of entertainment (although making it fun has been one of the goals). IP: Logged
charmstar Pilot	posted 06-07- 07:12 PM MH- I hope the fact that RCSim isn't a "game" doesn't mean it will be priced differently... does it? I've been interested for a long time in flying the SDOE planes as RC planes. In fact I remember posting about that once like a year ago, when SDOE first came out. However, I don't currently feel like getting into the real RC plane thing, and so for me it would be a game, and hopefully only 40-50 bucks :-) Hmm. Will the guns and bombs code still be in RCSimulator? Could we actually have a dogfight where we do some shooting with the "real" guns? Also, how tricky will it be to get an SDOE plane into RCSim? Will there be an OpenPlane property called something like aircSizeRatio (value) which will allow us to painlessly change the SDOE planes into 1:24 scale or whatever? Also, would the pilot still bail out if his plane got shot up, like in SDOE? charm IP: Logged
graymon Pilot	posted 06-08- 03:43 AM I must say the new pics are looking very sharp.I also like the extra window in the corner.Any chance of porting this into SDOE(especially as a outside view player to threat/target view).? IP: Logged
Michael Harrison General	posted 06-08- 06:56 AM Charm: While the price hasn't been set in stone, it will likely be around $120. One thing to keep in mind is that since RC Sim is aimed at a different market, different prices/rules apply. You can easily spend $300-$400 on your first RC plane (plane, controller, engine, fuel, tools, spare parts, membership fees, etc) and so spending another $100 or so to keep from wrecking it on your first flight is a good investment. Considering that most of our competition sells for $200+, we're priced right. Guns and bombs are still in the engine. To move an FS plane to RCSim is only a matter of adding a few properties, a .ppf file for important data, a preview image and extra sking and deciding if you want a scale plane (and resizing it) or if you just want the full-size plane. If you had a pilot in your plane, he would still bail out. Our planes won't ship with pilot models. IP: Logged
Michael Harrison General	posted 06-08- 07:05 AM graymon: Yes, the inset view can be added back to FS. Once RCSim is finished we'll be able to assign the window to most of our standard views. IP: Logged
charmstar Pilot	posted 06-08- 12:13 PM Well, its too bad to hear that RCSim isn't going to be priced like a game, but I'm happy that SDOE is able to draft off of it, so that we'll all be able to enjoy the benefits. I suppose we can just fly our planes from the control tower, and RCSim is a great option for those of us getting into RC planes :-) Say, is there any chance the OpenPlane.doc will be updated to include all of the new properties, as well as some of the undocumented old properties (like the terrain props)? charm IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 06-08- 01:57 PM SPanky here... I personally can't wait for Openplane V2.0 And of course by then OPS could be insanely cool I can dream right? That price is a little steep though for what essentialy just looks like a beefed up SDOE with tiny planes. It will be great for budding RC flyers though. Ya never know, I might pick it up but its more of an investment and thats how I would have to justify it. IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 06-08- 02:13 PM Spanky, If SDOE were a true "simulator" that taught people how to fly, a practical application in other words, it would cost a lot more. Games for entertainment vs applications for learning are two different markets and two different pricing structures. IP: Logged
graymon Pilot	posted 06-09- 02:18 AM Whatever the market,it looks to be a cool product-and SDOE will benefit from work done for it....Demo? IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 06-09- 06:09 AM Spanky here.... Oh yeah Jerry, I get what you mean. Thats why I'm saying it might not be right for me, since I don't have any RC planes and nor do I plan on getting any soon. So for me all it would have been, would have been a game. IP: Logged
Sv Pilot	posted 06-09- 08:45 AM I will be getting the R/C sim for sure, it looks great! Flying RC adds a whole new demension to flying. Those who say that it is "pretending" to fly a plane are way off ther mark. Remember "Last Flight of the Phoenix?" Ha! It remindes me of that movie. An RC plane flies like any other, and trying to fly a plane you are not inside of brings entire new challenges and enjoyment of flight. I just love hand catching my hand-launch glider - people watch for like hours sometimes... it is like a trianed bird. I hold up my right hand and stall the bird right into it. IMO Evil Avatar is just plain wrong about everything he says, so his knocking SDOE should be considered a compliment -Sv IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 06-09- 10:45 AM One thing I'm not clear on: Will RC Sim have some sort of physical interface that will allow RC pilots to use their radio controllers? If not it seems that practicing with a joystick and keyboard is a long way from flying with a hand held control unit, IMO. Maybe there isn't much difference. What do you RC'ers think? IP: Logged
Michael Harrison General	posted 06-09- 11:46 AM RC Sim will come in several flavors... 1) Software only 2) Software with Futaba cable & Ripmax driver 3) Software with JR cable & Ripmax driver The hw interface that comes with 2&3 connects directly to the joystick port and the driver makes your TX look like just another DX joystick. At some point in the future, Ripmax will also have a USB version of the hw interface. IP: Logged
Jerry Pilot	posted 06-09- 12:15 PM Thanks MH. I have no idea what you said. But I gather the answer is yes and that RC flyers will be able to use their own controllers. I imagine the $125 is for the software only version. How much with the cable interface? IP: Logged
Mighty Pilot	posted 06-09- 01:31 PM Glossary: Futaba = Manufacturer of r/c radio equipment JR = A different manufacturer of r/c radio equipment TX = Transmitter, the box with little joysticks you hold in your hand to fly an r/c plane DX = DirectX Ripmax driver = The cable goes from the buddy box port on the transmitter and connects to the joystick port of the computer. This driver makes the stick motions look just like another joystick to Windows programs. Let's put it this way. For the last eight months, Michael, Chad and I have been flying the sim planes using real transmitter boxes. When we got to fly a real plane for the first time we had no trouble because we were already used to the controls. IP: Logged

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