posted 04-27- 11:53 PM               

My personal collection:
FS SDOE (Air - all theatres)
Panzer Commander (Armour - europe)
Fighting Steel (Naval - atl/pac)
Hidden and Dangerous (SpecOps/SAS - europe)
Steel Panthers 1,2,3 (Board Game Style - all theatres)

Ones I'm waiting for:
Silent Hunter II (UBoat)
Hidden and Dangerous 2 (SpecOps/SAS)
TeamFortress 2 (?? Is this even WWII?)

Btw, I scoped out EB at Southcentre (those in my city would know where this is) the other day and they still had a boxed copy of FS on the shelves, next to EAW, Janes, Nations, CFS and a few others.

Thanks!

Werner

posted 04-28- 09:44 PM               

Add Panzer Elite to the armor sims. IF you have a good computer.

Its pretty choppy on my p2 266 with 192 megs and a banshee.

posted 04-28- 09:57 PM               

Sierra's Desert Fighters looked good Untill they cancelled it! Bugger

It might be a bit out of the way, but, All of you who build model kits should know of AIRFIX model kits. Some company has made a game based around Airfix's WWII aeroplane kits. Story goes, little boy make models, which then come to life (Toy story 3 anyone!). The planes (controlled by players) race around house, destroying anything which gets in their way.
Called Airfix Dogfighters, i believe.

The only other game i can think of, and it too is a fair way off, is that new game in which you are flying around in in 1945 in the USA. Catch is, is that you are in a parallel universe! Visuals look pretty cool but i haven't heard much else. The designs of some of the planes look Very sweet though!

posted 04-29- 12:20 AM               

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04/24/00 - Operational Art of War: Europe in Flames

10/02/00 - B17 Flying Fortress

10/31/00 - Hidden & Dangerous II

(soon) World War II Online

(unknown) IL-2 Sturmovik

(unknown) Silent Hunter II (on hold –possibly will be canned or sold to another publisher)

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Salut!

JG2"FireCat!"

P.S. Team Fortress is a Multiplayer MOD of the game Half-Life. It is Military, but the setting is current era, not WW2.

posted 04-30- 12:11 AM               

Old:

LC - sucky game
AOE, AOTP, AOTD, ect..
SWOL, BOB, ect..
1942

I also liked Air Power, an old zeppelin aircraft carrier game from Rowan that people didn't like due to it's touchy controls. Other than that, a nice strategy game.

I am wanting to add a Panzer and a Sherman to TreadMarks, I just gotta figure out what program can output textured .lwo files.

posted 04-30- 03:40 PM               

"Hidden And Dangerous II"?

Do you mean H & D - Devil's Bridge/Fight For Freedom, or is another completely new version of H & D coming out?

I know H & D DB/FFF is already out (I have it) so there must be another H & D comin' out yes? That'll be great.

Thanks.

posted 04-30- 06:20 PM               

Werner

posted 05-13- 11:56 AM               

Yeah i tried that demo pete. I do like the physics but really hate the rest of the game.
Graphics and such just don't do it for me.

Plus in Elite its just more realistic. Going through and shelling houses. Infantry. Water damages your tank. rolling hills and terrain.

The only part I hate is the high system requirments.

posted 05-14- 02:03 PM               

Werner

posted 05-14- 06:20 PM               

Poor products due to the BIG guys, not the developers, calling all the shots. It's a SERIOUS bummer.

(see my post in the general forum about B-17II at E3, and also that mention about Silent Hunter II makes me think it could end up getting screwed over as well)

posted 05-17- 05:52 PM               

I reckon all the best sims are produced by small teams, more or less on a shoestring, with only modest sales required to make a modest financial success. As soon as the suits get involved, the production costs skyrocket, you get a SMALL improvement in the product itself, and you need HUGE sales to justify the time and resources expended on the project. Not good for "hard core" simulations, which are hard to do well, and haven't got the sales potential of simple "shoot em ups."

Actually, maybe it will turn out to be GOOD when all the big companies get out of the sim business. There will always be up-and-coming programming talent anxious to strut their stuff. Some of the best sims (Warbirds, Aces High, even Wing Commander) were the product of small teams with high standards, a little patience, and a love of what they were creating.

Time to go "back to our roots" maybe?

posted 05-17- 07:31 PM               

I think at the root of it is one word

PROFIT.

In a small company with people that are happy with there jobs and position will work to put out a quality product that keeps them employed and keeps the business in business.

As long as they get to keep working its all good.

In a large company there is stock prices, dividends and other stuff. They not only want to make sure everyone working makes a decent living and that the cost of running the business is taken care of. The suits want to be WAY overpaid and have the business increasing in value AND keep the stock owners happy.

I don't have a problem with either method. But it seems that good sims mostly come from the first crowd. Heck most ANY quality product comes from smaller places.

I personally would be fine if I ran a business as long as everyone got paid and the bills got paid. I can live without pursuit of the almighty profit margin.

Some profit is needed in every business for reinvestment in tools, building matanince and such and hopefully a good nest egg for the owner.

BUT profit just to keep the stock holders and company president happy ends up with games like SDOE was when it came out.

At least thats the way I see it.