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Topic: Dual Booting? Help Me!
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ArgonV
JAG
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posted 12-28- 02:32 AM
   
Ok, here is what Im trying to do:I have 3 hard drives: One with Win98SE, one with WinXP Prof and one with just a bunch of games, drivers for stuff and patches for games. I currently have all 3 hooked up. I have 1 running on of my primary IDE slot (The one with lots of games) and the other 2 are on my ATA100 slots (The Win98SE is Master and the WinXP Prof is Slave. They both are ATA100 drives). But when I get into Win98SE, it only lists 2 hard drives (The Win98SE one and the one with lots of games). So how do I dual boot to get to WinXP Prof?!?! When my A7V133 mother board loads, it detects all 3 hard drives, but it boots up to Win98SE by default.  HELP ME PLEASE!! IP: Logged |
Blind Faith
Pilot
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posted 12-28- 11:37 AM
Is XP formated in NTFS?IP: Logged |
Snickers
Pilot
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posted 12-28- 02:44 PM
Had a similar type thing... Machine would detect drive on boot but not when running. Take it on Blind Faith (pun intended) the drive was formatted in NTFS. Once I redid it to FAT32 everything was fine....IP: Logged |
ArgonV
JAG
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posted 12-29- 02:32 AM
The WinXP Prof hard drive is formated in NTFS format... Why would this matter?? IP: Logged |
Major Hippie
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posted 12-29- 09:05 AM
'cause win98 can't read NTFS at all, any OS based on the win95 kernal can't read NTFS (this includes winME), they can only ready FAT16 or FAT32. WinNT, win2000 & winXP can read FAT or NTFS....hip63  ------------------
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ArgonV
JAG
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posted 12-29- 04:39 PM
Well that still doesnt help, because when I enable the WinXP Prof hard drive as master, it wont see the Win98SE hard drive on boot so I can choose what I want to start up with, but it knows its there when youre in WinXP Prof... IP: Logged |
DanW
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posted 01-10- 11:42 PM
windows has to be loaded on the primary harddrive...it has to be able to access the boot sector of the disk.if ya want to dual boot, i would suggest getting system commander or something like that. if you dont want to pay the 70 bucks then fdisk your drive into 2 partitions and format both with FAT32. Then install Win98 on one partition and XP on the other. The only funny that will happen is that your path on the second partion will be D: instead of C: If you use system commander, then both drives will be C:. But, if you loose system commander, then your installs are hosed up. IP: Logged |
Lothar
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posted 01-11- 01:41 AM
System Commander has always farked up on me eventually. I recommend avoiding it.
Install XP on D: or get a cartrige system for your C: drive from dirtcheapdrives.com. System commander setups will only end in tears.
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Killer-Ants
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posted 01-11- 08:39 AM
Donīt worry,
Two simple things:
- Systems like XP allow dual booting - from it installation this system must prevail over 98, that means you need install 98 first, and when installing XP allow dual booting.
- Both systems can "live" in the same Partition, but with different directory names. ex: c:\Windows98 and c:\WinXP
Well, you donīt have format a partition as NTFS, have a little prog how allows XP read FAT32... so donīt worry. Format to FAT16 then after both installations install the FAT32 drivers for XP and now from 98 use the convertion to FAT32  Simple huh??? Bad news. You probably will reformat and reinstall a bunch or a lot of things... Well, thatīs the life...  ------------------
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DanW
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posted 01-11- 09:02 AM
"Both systems can "live" in the same Partition, but with different directory names. ex: c:\Windows98 and c:\WinXP"The only problem I would see with this would in your 'Program Files' directory...XP and 98 would share the same directory would may cause confusion down the road...unless you had 2 seperate directories for this as well. But I think some software automatically installs things to program files. As far as system commander tanking...I've only had it tank on me when I've tried to remove an OS from it..but that's just been my experience with it.
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ArgonV
JAG
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posted 01-11- 12:47 PM
Well see I already have 3 physical hard drives. One with Win98SE, one with WinXP Prof and one with nothing on it but games and patches.The WinXP hard drive doesnt see the Win98SE hard drive on boot. The WinXP hard drive is NTFS and the other two hard drives are FAT32. Is this going to be a problem? I want my WinXP hard drive as the master hard drive. I have the jumpers and cables set up to do so, but it still doesnt see my Win98SE hard drive when I want to dual boot. The BIOS sees it on startup, but WinXP doesnt see it. Anymore ideas? IP: Logged |
greasemonkey
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posted 01-18- 10:16 AM
Argon,There are several issues here
1. The NTFS issue has already been covered
2. Because of the way your system is configured, whichever drive you boo with will lose the other OS drive- here's why.
You can only assigh ONE primary partition under windows that's activated as bootable. IF you have more than one drive with a bootable partition, whichever drive you boot under will ignore the other drive with the bootable partition. This also has to do with the fact that windows has to boot off the first drive. I can already tell you what happens. When you boot to 98, it's listed as Drive C, and when you boot to XP, it's listed as drive C. The only solution I know of is to do a reinstall, put both OSes on the same drive AND have all srives formatted as FAT 32 Good Luck IP: Logged |
ArgonV
JAG
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posted 01-18- 01:57 PM
Doh!  Theres no way to have one OS on one drive and the other OS on another drive and some how have a screen that pops up in DOS and asks you what drive you want to boot from? IP: Logged |
Lothar
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posted 01-18- 02:45 PM
The cleanest "dual boot" system will use two seperate hard drives. There are a couple of hardware devices to help you here.
I use a removable cartrige system for my C: drive. One cartrige is a bootable Win2K, one is Win98. Power-down, swap cartrige, power on, new os! I have my favorites and outlook folders on the D: drive, so the same bookmarks, emails, etc. are available under each OS.
I heard of another device which works similarly, but is just a switch on the front of your computer. You still have two harddrives.
The advantage of this type of system is that you can have as many OSs as you have harddrives, and each is totally self-contained. The harddrive can be small enough for the OS if you have programs on D:. A one or two gig drive should be plenty of space. The downside is having to have all these harddrives and not being able to share data without a seperate D: drive which is not removable.
I haven't had much luck with regular software-controlled dual booting. I can get it working but always within a month or two my system is hosed. That's why I just use seperate harddrives now.If you are interested, look at dirtcheapdrives.com under "dataport". The budget ones are fine. A case and two cartriges (all you need for 2 drives) will set you back $71. Extra cartriges are $21) [This message has been edited by Lothar (edited 01-18-2002).] IP: Logged |
ArgonV
JAG
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posted 01-19- 01:59 AM
Well I dont like those options at all... For now, whenever I want to play in my WinXP setup, I'll just have to plug it in the hard manual way...IP: Logged |
greasemonkey
Cadet
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posted 01-19- 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by ArgonV:
Doh! Theres no way to have one OS on one drive and the other OS on another drive and some how have a screen that pops up in DOS and asks you what drive you want to boot from?
The closest you ca get is with linux. You put a 15 MB (yes that's all) boot sector on th first hard drive and install the rest of Linux on one of the other drives. Since it's not a bootable DOS partition, windows ignores this and goes straight to the first bootable DOS partition and starts.
There aresome pretty savvy geek sites out there where you may be able to get a workaround if you post. IP: Logged |
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