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Diego Lozano
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posted 09-06- 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go get the Japanese Me262 here http://www.3dgw.com/simfiles/

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ArgonV
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posted 09-06- 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! Whew that was fast! Was this plane used in the Pacific? And what stats do you have on her?

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AGAS - 5
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posted 09-06- 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AGAS - 5   Click Here to Email AGAS - 5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://members.aol.com/pelzig/

Click on Army aircraft then on Nakajima Ki201

Cheers,

AGAS 5

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ArgonV
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posted 09-06- 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

I'll do the historical changes to the best of my ability tomorrow perhaps. BTW, when taking off, she want to be tail heavy and she flops back. Have to push fully down on the stick to get her level agian.

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Diego Lozano
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posted 09-07- 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sure it has to do with removing the two foward pylons. Feel free to work on her Argon, I'm a dunce when it comes to setting up weights and balance.

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AGAS - 5
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posted 09-09- 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AGAS - 5   Click Here to Email AGAS - 5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Diego, if we're talking '1946' planes here, does she need something to escort ?

Just a variation on the Ju88L theme. Royohboy's nose and Aladar's Vstab have been 'borrowed'

Lost DOFs on pasted parts (ie Vstabs and Ailerons) and has no landing gear. Some other minor work needed as well.

I guess it's just a tool for learning a bit more about Openplane....

Cheers,

AGAS 5

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ArgonV
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posted 09-09- 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What exactly did you change? I cant figure out why the plane is tilting backwards on takeoff. What two foward pylons do you speak of?

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Diego Lozano
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posted 09-09- 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AGAS,
That is my favorite Japanese med. bomber skin that you've...well anyone has made. Are those jet engines? Very quick I'm sure.

Argon,
I simply removed the two fwd pylons. Open up the newest Me262 SM. Look just fwd of the wings and under the nose. The names are pylonL and pylonR if I'm not mistaken. That was all I did to the SM, other than the usual renaming process.

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ArgonV
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posted 09-09- 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I looked and found what you are talking about. LoL, still didnt work. After that I renamed the ME262.sm myself. Still no go. Then I just copy/pasted the ME262.sm to the ki201 folder and just renamed the file name to ki201.sm STILL no go.... I think the ME262.sm file is possesed!. It doesnt like to be Japanese and work correctly.

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Diego Lozano
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posted 09-10- 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diego Lozano   Click Here to Email Diego Lozano     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strange. I'll bet you fly like I do. Throttle to the max at takeoff. Thats how I get those Evil Kneivel wheelies.

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AGAS - 5
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posted 09-10- 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AGAS - 5   Click Here to Email AGAS - 5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diego thankyou for such kind comments

They're the engines off the '262. With the Ju's weight it's not all that 'quick' yet.......

Oh...sorry to interupt your dialog with ArgonV...

....my only 2c worth is - where is the fuel tank located ? if it's behind the pilot (or C of G) and you removed something up front...then it might unbalance things a tad...just a guess....good luck and its a great addition

AGAS 5

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AGAS - 5
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posted 09-10- 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AGAS - 5   Click Here to Email AGAS - 5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diego...

an amusing thought just crossed my mind...I don't think anyone apart from you and me have made Japanese medium bomber skins...

Cheers

AGAS 5

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ArgonV
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posted 09-10- 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArgonV   Click Here to Email ArgonV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diego, LoL actually I throttle up slowly.

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wakeup tailgunner
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posted 09-10- 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wakeup tailgunner   Click Here to Email wakeup tailgunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oddly enough, if you model a fighter/bomber version of the 262, that was exactly what they did do! I've just finished reading the Me262 combat diary, lists of actions, losses, kills etc. and the bomber conversion really screwed the plane. They had to give them extra fuel tanks to cope with the extra loads, engines having to be run that much harder to handle the bomb loads. The extra tank was behind the pilot, and this made them tail heavy and un-fightable. The pilots used to run down the aft tank first, to try and give their planes back some balance. Losses for Kg51 and Kg54 were heavy. Some 60% of the pilots lost their lives. This is nearly three times the casualty rate of their fighter counterparts.

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Vugel
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posted 09-12- 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vugel   Click Here to Email Vugel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you throttle up slowly the torque is easyer to controlso you wont find your self weaving from sid3e to side. this is evan worse in the ww1 planes

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Whirlwind
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posted 09-12- 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whirlwind   Click Here to Email Whirlwind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You also need to remember that the 262 had a tendency to loose fore engine parts which clogged the air intakes, that and when the 262 became active, the pilots were mostly rookies.

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