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JT Pilot	posted 03-20- 02:25 AM DOWNLOAD IT HERE.... http://home.adelphia.net/~woodpanel/fgi/fgi_main.html [This message has been edited by JT (edited 05-23-2000).] IP: Logged
JT Pilot	posted 03-20- 02:30 AM Let me know if there are any problems with it. Please read the readme! IP: Logged
Michael Pilot	posted 03-20- 02:48 AM It seems to be missing the airfoil file. I'm reduced to slavering over it in OP Studio. IP: Logged
AGAS - 5 Pilot	posted 03-20- 02:49 AM hehehehe Downloading now ....... JT, this is one of the times when it's good to be an Aussie ..... I think most everyone else is in bed !! and boy have I been waiting for this one !! Cheers, AGAS 5 ------------------ Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation IP: Logged
Arrowbase Pilot	posted 03-20- 02:49 AM Bonjour ! Heeeeha! My favorite plane. It was a long time I'm waiting for. I'll give you my feedback as soon as I install it. If I find a french squadron using it, I'll will make a skin. Maybe it doesn't exist. I'm in search. Merci Arrowbase IP: Logged
Pachy Pilot	posted 03-20- 02:49 AM You post this while I'm at work. What a torture. This day's going to be looooooooonng... IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 03-20- 02:53 AM Spanky here... CDT when trying a training take off. Even if i open the mission and resave it. Going to try making a whole new mission and i'm going to look at that airfoil thing. IP: Logged
Pachy Pilot	posted 03-20- 02:53 AM Arrowbase, search in www.mae.org . You'll see the GC II/5 "La Fayette" Jug with the cool Indian head symbol. IP: Logged
Michael Pilot	posted 03-20- 02:57 AM I checked it in OP studio and it has a new airfoil, which isn't in the package. I'm afraid JT may have gone to bed... IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 03-20- 02:59 AM Spanky here.. Seems to be. What airfoil did you sub in for now? Is it working for ya? IP: Logged
JT Pilot	posted 03-20- 03:00 AM No, I'm here.... let me update that zip. It will be back in a few minutes. IP: Logged
Michael Pilot	posted 03-20- 03:02 AM I haven't tried that (subbing an airfoil) because I really need to get some sleep. But that's a good idea if you can't wait to fly it. (No longer relevant - see above.) [This message has been edited by Michael (edited 03-20-2000).] IP: Logged
JT Pilot	posted 03-20- 03:06 AM OK, I fixed it. Sorry about that gang. Download it and reinstall it... same url as above. I'll stay online and check here to make sure everything is OK. [This message has been edited by JT (edited 03-20-2000).] IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 03-20- 03:24 AM Spanky here... Sweet. I was going to post mine with the FW190 foils. Its all good then. IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 03-20- 03:36 AM Spanky here.. Still problems man. CTD If you have ICQ my # is 3080656 I'm going to look around and see what i find. IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 03-20- 03:39 AM Spanky here... I'm still not seeing an Airfoil in that zip. That seems to be the prob IP: Logged
JT Pilot	posted 03-20- 03:46 AM It's in there. IP: Logged
Ishmael Pilot	posted 03-20- 03:47 AM I'm about to fall asleep, but had to tell Team-Jug what a great job you did!!! I bought this sim at the right time, and now I'm going to look at it once more before going to bed. Well, may just fly her a little more. IP: Logged
Michael Pilot	posted 03-20- 04:17 AM It works for me. Now I can finally go to bed. The Jug really is amazing. It looks unbelievably good, especially with bombs and rockets on. IP: Logged
Crankshaft Pilot	posted 03-20- 04:23 AM Its still locking up for me. Trying the takeoff mission. I get into cockpit then it freezes. But it sure is pretty! Crank IP: Logged
AGAS - 5 Pilot	posted 03-20- 04:30 AM Second download did the trick for me JT. An absolute pleasure to fly. The amount of detail is quite apparent and the texturing looks spot on. The JUG Team has dun good. Crack a tinnie on me boys, my shout ! Cheers, AGAS 5 errr foot note JT - There's no Hangar Mission. I did a quick fix and copied a training mission across and retitled it 'P47d'. ------------------ Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation [This message has been edited by AGAS - 5 (edited 03-20-2000).] IP: Logged
JT Pilot	posted 03-20- 04:31 AM Try the alternate URL above... maybe your ISP has some sort of caching thing. IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 03-20- 04:33 AM Spanky here... ok its working hi res cockpit and non. the tail is fine in game( i was seeing a prob in OPS) and the frame rate doesn't seem to be any lower with the hi res cockpit couple problems The artificial horizon and compass are messed in hi res cockpit(in glide unsure about D3D) the FPS is low in both. Around the same. I'm getting 16 and in most of the other planes i get at least 25 out side looking really close at the front i'm getting 26-30 Yep just checked. i get 26-30 in the pit of the BF109G6 and 50-55 right close up front. I realize you went a little higher poly. I'm just letting you know. No flying this puppy online for me. Low res cockpit or not. upgrade coming soon to make the hi res cockpit even better i would say find some other textures you already have in to use on the floor or steal some space off another tiff so you can use more. It doesn't fit with the clean look of the rest of the pit. also the box on the left looks a little washed out too. . Crankshaft He's reuploading it right now with a new file name. I think some router or your isp might have cached the old file so it you keep getting the old file instead of the new fixed one. That was happening to me. You have ICQ? my icq # is 3080656 IP: Logged
Crankshaft Pilot	posted 03-20- 05:15 AM Thanks Gentlemen! That must have been the trouble. Netscape is porked somehow. I used (cough) (gag) IE and it flys, and it flys beautiful I might add. Whoever thunk up this contest should get a raise! I love all these new birds! Wish I could find a wingman to fly them online with. No way I am sleeping . PS its 03:17 here. Message me if you want to meet at a server, or stop by Kali server #631 Ill hang there a while. Playing with Jugs! Crankshaft IP: Logged
Private Roger Pilot	posted 03-20- 05:55 AM Will one of you guys write me an excuse for work today? O.K. I got it, and it's as good as I had hoped. The attention to detail by Team Jug is amazing. This is the best looking plane in SDOE IMHO. I was in the Takeoff traing mission and was flying in an exterior view, just looking at the beauty. I circled the field and came down for a landing, but as I was using a forward view (yeah, thats it) I brought it down rather hard. The wheels flew off, and it bounced up, as it came down the struts sunk through the ground. I effectively belly landed, with no further dameage to the struts. Did you forget to do that OP voodoo to that area? Anyway, thats all I noticed on my first go around, more later. Great, great work! PR=FC= [This message has been edited by Private Roger (edited 03-20-2000).] IP: Logged
motoadve Cadet	posted 03-20- 07:06 AM I cant installed!!!! Tried many times , followed the instructions and it creates a new media folder with the plane in it. HOW CAN I INSTALL IT????? IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 03-20- 07:48 AM I don't know what to say man. we need more info IS there an airfoil Folder in your aircraft folder with the file. serversky.ppf? if not thats why your crashing. Try the other Download. IP: Logged
Razer Pilot	posted 03-20- 08:09 AM JT- i haven't tried the plane yet since i'm stuck at work and the boss looks down on it unless we are flying on the LAN. The prop tiff looks like the one i redid for the Spit IX. Is this the case? If so i think it needs to be redone since the one with the spit IX was done in 32 sec. and sucks. I'm going to redo the one for the spit IX for the next pack and i could also make one for the Jug , just so they are different. Razer IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 03-20- 10:14 AM Spanky here.. I was looking under the hood a bit. Its looking pretty cool. Loving the use of the OBprob. (think i go that right) Can't wait to see it in action. I was wondering guys. Some of that Engine rpm and horsepower, and fuel consumption stuff didn't look like it was caused by damage but just by odds. Is it a damage thing or did you make it reflect the reality of not everyone having quite the same planes? IP: Logged
Gunner Pilot	posted 03-20- 10:54 AM Wahooo! (Gunner doing a "Snoopy like" Happy Dance) Sent it home from work. Hmmm, Guess I will have to take a looooong lunch break and say I had a flat or something, hehe. Thanks for your hard work guys! ------------------ (Kill'em All, Sort'em out Later ) -=BAB=- Gunner IP: Logged
Kraftwerk Pilot	posted 03-20- 11:00 AM WOW! But very FPS intensive. IP: Logged
Raider Pilot	posted 03-20- 11:15 AM I am stunned. Genius use of obProb. The Jug could take a ton of damage and it will never be damaged the same way twice. It will take a long time to really appreciate all the effects in this thing. Visually stunning and mechanical genius. Great work gentlemen! Raider 33rd~GS Here is to the Jug Team. Cheers! IP: Logged
bjorn Pilot	posted 03-20- 11:29 AM Agas, No hangar mission? I'm sure we had one. I'll look into it. Is it concidered cheating if it indeed is missing and we add it today when uploading? Razer, Unfortunately you're right, it is indeed the spit IX fast prop. Time, you know... Spanky, Raider, There are two kinds of obProb's in use. The ones for engine power and RPM, and also for strength of all damage DOFs and total aircraft weight, are there to reflect differences in individuals. After all, the planes weren't 100% identical. Some differences were there from the factory, others introduced due to wear, tear and repair. The loadout.ppf also has a 10% chance for each bomb to be a dud. Then there are the obProb's that are activated due to damage. Is the bullet that hits the wing the lucky one that causes the ammo belt to explode, or a gun to jam? PR, Gear struts falling through the ground? Hmmm. I was sure I'd added those obBodyPts, but then I'm not a very good friend with them, so I probably messed it up. Just how hard was that landing? I never managed to do that, I had to resort to shooting the wheels off in slew mode. There'll be more later on. There's only so much you can do within the narrow timeframe. _ /Bjorn. IP: Logged
Spanky the Mad Dog Pilot	posted 03-20- 11:40 AM Spanky here... Great stuff man. Any ideas on the FPS issues? IP: Logged
bjorn Pilot	posted 03-20- 11:57 AM Spanky, Well, this is speculation on my part, since I don't know how SDOE is written, but they're no rookie programmers, so it's probably at least as good as this: All obProb's should be calculated when the plane is first instantiated, so if there's an onDmg 1 (obProb (1 (obExplode))), and the random number generator says we're at this 1%, it'd be translated to onDmg 1 (obExplode), before the game even starts. If it is this way, there's absolutely no runtime penalty to all these obProb's at all, although it would take a slightly longer time to startup a game (so slight, I doubt it can be measured by a human.) _ /Bjorn. IP: Logged
JT Pilot	posted 03-20- 12:25 PM Spanky, We'll see how it goes... if lot's of people have frame rate issues, I could always replace the highest level LODs with the second level, which are still pretty decent looking, albeit less detailed. The thing that's different about this plane is that it has a set of high detail LODs that switchin when the plane is 40 to 60 feet away.... the idea being that no one would ever be that close to more than one P-47 for very long.... especially in battle. The landing gear also add a lot of complexity, but once retracted, they shouldn't be a problem. Anyway, if you're checking out frame rate in external view, and you're zoomed in as tight as can be, then you're basically getting the full nelson. If you zoom out even a little bit, though, those heavy LODs switch out. Because the plane switches to simple LODs a lot sooner, you will notice that as you zoom out, the framerate may even be better than default SDOE planes. Even so, in the cockpit, the plane may just be a bit much for your system (I think you mentioned that you're on a p233 with Voodoo Banshee?). On my system, frame rate isn't a problem-- even when using the heavy cockpit-- but I am interested in other people's frame rate issues, so I will try to respond.... this is, after all, the first itteration of this plane. :-) [This message has been edited by JT (edited 03-20-2000).] IP: Logged
Razer Pilot	posted 03-20- 01:59 PM Bjorn - that's what i figured you could have used the one from the mustang and it would have still worked. when i download it tonight i plane to redo it. If you want i'll send over the new prop.tif. If not thats ok. at least i'll be able to see through it. ------------------ Tony "Razer" Martin http://www.fshangar.com IP: Logged
Pete Hawk Pilot	posted 03-20- 02:34 PM WOW! It's stunning! If ANYONE can do better than this I'll be very impressed! It's not at all hard to see what just moved into the #1 spot in my mind. This plane is gorgeous (and I'm not normally a P-47 fan. Well, I am now ) Thanks for all the hard work, it REALLY paid off! [This message has been edited by Pete Hawk (edited 03-20-2000).] IP: Logged
Whirlwind Pilot	posted 03-20- 04:49 PM Thank goodness it is just over 1mb! Downloading it now, I would have gotten it earlier, but some people have to work, and I'm one of them . IP: Logged
Private Roger Pilot	posted 03-20- 05:30 PM bjorn Hey, please don't think I was complaining or trying to nit-pick. I wasn't. I love the plane. I just thought you might want to know about this anomoly. It has happened twice, so I don't think it's a fluke. I'm sure a few things will be seen that can be addressed later. It's a fantastic piece of work! You guys in Team Jug did a bang up job. Thank you! PR=FC= IP: Logged

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