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Ronin
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posted 11-22- 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronin   Click Here to Email Ronin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you know that there are close to 170 keyboard commands reserved for SDOE???

OPPs is making available the following comprehensive list of keyboard commands for SDOE current through release patch 1.5. Also included are all the new keyboard commands that have been reserved for user functions like opening and closing the canopy on the new Zero.

The file includes a sharp two sided KEYBOARD COMMAND card updating the one that shipped with the SDOE.

You can download the package at the follow address...
http://www.fshangar.com/area51/key991116.zip

Ronin

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kopper
Pilot
posted 11-22- 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kopper   Click Here to Email kopper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ronin did a fabulous job with this. Download the thing and use it, it's great!

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Razor747
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posted 11-22- 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razor747   Click Here to Email Razor747     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great Job Ronin. I like the card. It will come in handy with all of the testing of new aircraft I am doing.

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silas
Pilot
posted 11-22- 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silas   Click Here to Email silas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice job. Very useful. Will print it out asap.

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Ronin
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posted 11-24- 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronin   Click Here to Email Ronin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the feedback guys. I fly several sims and it sure helps to have the keyboard commands card available to help me remember which commands are for which sim!

Further the card shipped that with SDOE is obsolete now with patch 1.5 and the new user generated commands.

Ronin

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Sp@nky
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posted 11-24- 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sp@nky   Click Here to Email Sp@nky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

yeah i was always trying to feather my props and it never worked

thanks alot man

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nealg
Pilot
posted 11-25- 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nealg   Click Here to Email nealg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fantastic job, Ronin!! Wow, this is ultra-useful......thanks thanks thanks THANKS!!!!

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ArthurQ
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posted 11-25- 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArthurQ   Click Here to Email ArthurQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great job Ronin. Talk about a useful thing to have.
There was just one key combo that it seemed everyone else in the lobby but myself knew for a long time and I just recently found out about--and I can't find it on your list.
It shrinks the window from full screen down to a smaller size so that you can do other things on your desktop while, for instance, waiting for someone to show up for a game.
"Alt Enter".
If this is so obvious or I somehow missed it on the list-just ignore this-and send me a virtual dope slap.
Thanks for all the work on this Ronin.

AQ

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Sp@nky
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posted 11-25- 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sp@nky   Click Here to Email Sp@nky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

i think it should be added too
i am pretty knowlegable computer user and i didn't know about this

now i use it all the time with other stuff

i will add it to the newbie online play page me and Zoy are working on

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Ronin
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posted 11-25- 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronin   Click Here to Email Ronin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ArthurQ-

[Alt] [Enter], huh...

I don't recall seeing that in the 'keyboard.inp'? Is this a MS WINDOWS level command??

I'll check it out and add it to the list for the next release.

Thanks for the feedback!. Anyone else got anything?

Ronin

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ArthurQ
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posted 11-25- 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArthurQ   Click Here to Email ArthurQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ronin,
Haven't got a clue about what kind of command this is. Might be a Windows command. Sure was nice to find out though. I could never figure out how guys could see the server listing while in the lobby or how they tuned in to Roger Wilco since all I had was a full screen of SDOE Lobby. Live and learn. Glad I wasn't the only one though. Misery sure does love company

Happy Thanksgiving all!

AQ

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Poodle EAF322
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posted 11-25- 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Poodle EAF322   Click Here to Email Poodle EAF322     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always use [alt] [tab] for going in and out of the game.
And I haven't tried it yet but the downloading just finished. It must be great after all the positive feedback. Thanks Ronin.

Cu, Poodle

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Tailslide
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posted 11-25- 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the excellent package! I never did get around to updating my keyboard.inp file !

Can we change the "Feather Props" keys to be something that makes more sense?

TS

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[This message has been edited by Tailslide (edited 11-25-1999).]

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Ronin
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posted 11-25- 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronin   Click Here to Email Ronin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TS -

Good question about changing the command for feathering to make more sense.

Boy was I tempted! You could change alot of the commands to make more sense!

But...
1) What do you suppose the odds are of folks around here agreeing on using the same new key assignments? Hahaha! Yeah right!

2) Its surpisingly hard to make new commands fit menomicly (sp?) with 170+ keys already taken! You get into a 'dominos' effect!

3) ...and finally what about compatability with future (knocking on wood) Parasoft Patch releases?

Given the above, I decided to preserve the original key assignments that everyone has already learned and only add new keys that Parasoft hasn't grabbed.

I took this approach to achieve the widest acceptance for this 'standard'.

BTW - Thanks to Razor for all the new key assignments to support canopy, tailhook, etc!

Ronin


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Michael Harrison
General
posted 11-26- 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Harrison   Click Here to Email Michael Harrison     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our future key management will be slightly different (more customizable from within the program).

One thing I plan on doing is allowing full input profile selection, so if you guys come up with a mapping most people like, I'll be happy to include it with the future game.

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Tailslide
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posted 11-26- 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Is Alt-1 Alt-2 Alt-3 Alt-4 taken? Much easier to figure out how to feather #3 engine.

TS

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Ronin
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posted 11-26- 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronin   Click Here to Email Ronin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MH-

Thanks for the update on your future plans for handling of key commands.

We'd be glad to provide you with some input on key command assignments. Do you have a list of any new functions that you may use?? Send 'em to me and I'll do three things. 1) Assign them to best fit menomic key assignments. 2) Adjust the current SDOE key assignments for best menomic fit for all commands. (I may regret that offer! {g}) 3) Post the results and see if we can get some feedback for you.

If everyone seems to like the new command assignments I'll reissue the KEYBOARD COMMAND standard with those new key assignments (Of course minus the ones due in project x!).

Best Regards, Ronin

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Ronin
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posted 11-26- 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronin   Click Here to Email Ronin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TS-

No Alt 1-4 are not taken. We could use those to feather props 1-4. How do you propose to unfeather them??

This brings up a question that I've been wondering how everyone felt... (next message..)

Ronin


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Ronin
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posted 11-26- 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronin   Click Here to Email Ronin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All:

Currently, many functions have a single key command that toggles the function on/off as well as a second key command for on and a third command for off.

Question: Do we need three commands to handle one function???

Example:
Landing gear Up/Down . . . . G
Landing gear Up . . . Shift G
Landing Gear Down . . . Ctrl G

I use the toggles like "G" mapped to a button on my CH F16 Fighter Stick. Therefore, I love the toggle commands as they save on stick buttons. However, when I use the keyboard I like being able to turn a function on with one key and off with a second key.

Frankly, since I use the programable stick I'm use it and not keyboard. If I had to vote for one or the other I'd choose the toggle command setup.

If we were to reassign the key functions... do you guys feel like we need the three key control setup like the landing gear example above?

Ronin

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Tailslide
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posted 11-26- 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Some people need the seperate up/down to make sure their programmable stick functions. For example if you had a toggle switch on your stick and you want up to be gear up and down to be gear down.

TS


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roadtoad
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posted 11-27- 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadtoad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Ronin!

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Raider
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posted 11-27- 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raider   Click Here to Email Raider     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great work Ronin, Your the man.
This is very helpful.

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Coyote
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posted 12-31- 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coyote   Click Here to Email Coyote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a dead link....can anyone please send me to OPP Keyboard layout sheet? Thanks!

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ArthurQ
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posted 12-31- 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArthurQ   Click Here to Email ArthurQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The file is on the way Coyote. Hope it's the one you were looking for here. Its about 380KB--for your info.

ArthurQ=FC=

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Da Jug head
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posted 01-01- 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Da Jug head   Click Here to Email Da Jug head     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about posting this to simfiles

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That answered my question

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ArthurQ
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posted 01-01- 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArthurQ   Click Here to Email ArthurQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm--let's see if I can figure out how to do that. Registering now and I'll give it a whirl.

AQ

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ArthurQ
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posted 01-01- 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArthurQ   Click Here to Email ArthurQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Success! The nifty keyboard command card can now be downloaded at www.simfiles.com for anyone interested.

AQ

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jones
Cadet
posted 01-08- 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jones   Click Here to Email jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you !!!

your keyboard commands are very helpful
to a new user like myself. Got the game
two days ago free online. And next to EAW's
this is the best. After I DL'ed all the
add-on's. The on cd manual sucks big time

thanks

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Bomber Boy
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posted 01-12- 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bomber Boy   Click Here to Email Bomber Boy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ronin!

Just got a new computer that can actually run FS and now I can't find my keycard. This is very helpful.

Bomber Boy

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ritt_bear
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posted 01-26- 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ritt_bear   Click Here to Email ritt_bear     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried that link, says page not found. Any chance someone can send me a copy via Email?

bear2790@hotmail.com

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ArthurQ
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posted 01-26- 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ArthurQ   Click Here to Email ArthurQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just tried the link and it worked for me. The simfiles link that is. www.simfiles.com But I'll shoot you the file in your email.

AQ

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[This message has been edited by ArthurQ (edited 01-26-2001).]

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