posted 02-20- 06:38 PM               

It's this dumb HUD issue; just finished a mission with no HUD and overcast. My head is splitting and my neck and shoulders hurt like Hell. This is not my idea of relaxation...flying online shouldn't make me feel like I just got off work, fer cryin' out loud. Since this seems to be what more and more want, guess folk like me are not wanted much, so I'm thinking of resigning from this man's Air Corps. Something I couldn't do if this were 'real'!!

Ah, Hell, set 'em up!! I'll just sit over in the corner and piss and moan to myself...hehe.

posted 02-20- 08:12 PM               

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posted 02-20- 08:13 PM               

I have to admit, sometimes I like flying with no hud especially in WW I stuff.

Those guys that like no hud are just trying to sneak up on you.

Hawk, Better send over a couple-o-more.

posted 02-20- 08:55 PM               

Actually, I don't use the HUD itself much...and take-offs/landings are fun without it. I don't even need the identifiers...the names of the planes aren't important. But the diamond or whatever may be used, along with a friend or foe color, are extremely important to me as a visual aid, to make up for deficiencies in my video, and eyesight.

When a game actually causes you physical pain, something is wrong! hehehe.

Set em up again, and keep em coming!!

posted 02-20- 09:30 PM               

I rely on the hud in missions and I use a 21 inch monitor and run extreme resolutions and still have trouble seeing another plane, especially if they are at a different altitude than me.

posted 02-22- 09:41 AM               

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Cheers
Kat out

posted 02-22- 11:46 AM               

Hmm...we should name this group...I'll think of something...soon as I can get me eyes to focus, and my head back pointing forward!

Thank you, Gentlemen...and I DO use that term loosely!

Ahhh....another round or two should help me thinking process considerable....

posted 02-29- 01:04 AM               

I will agree with you on this neal - If it was more realistic I wouldnt mind having the hud off but it is just too damn hard to see without it. I can never make out who is friend or foe unless they go flying right by me or I am right on their ass. I wish the stink'n patch would be released so we would have the option to individually turn this on and off.

Slamming my empty glass on the table - I am off to bed. See you guys in the skies soon!

posted 02-29- 01:26 AM               

I'll drink to that! Then bed - early flight tomorrow!!

Ah, this is indeed a fine place!

posted 02-29- 12:44 PM               

For example, I seldom use the HUD info itself, except on takeoffs and landings if I have it on...and I only use the single line HUD. What I really need to be competitive is the ID, and even then, only a marker is enough. But without it, I am basically blind in the sky, and may as well sit. This is due to a combination of things, but nothing I can change. I think what we are all saying is, it would be nice to have a option to select HUD or target info or just markers, etc., and also to have each player in online matches have the option of turning these on and off, rather than being controlled by the host.

It is a controversial issue at best, but those who have no troubles flying HUD-less really sometimes fail to see that it creates a very unfair advantage when flying with those who do. And it is only a game, after all, that should be available for everyone to compete on as equal a playing field as possible.

So, we come here and cry in our beer...and then go out and fly, cause this is still the best sim online!

posted 03-08- 12:02 AM               

Cheers! clink,clink clink,clink

posted 03-08- 12:47 AM               

And thanks for the drink!! Your remarks put me in mind of a occurrence some time back...'scuse me while I dredge up a memoir or two.

I was a member ( actually, still am I guess ) of RAF1 in EAW. 1st RAF Eagle.PO, actually.. Talk began of the upcoming patch..this dates it, right?? hehe...and much excitement was generated. If you have ever flown EAW online, you know that there is no 'accelerated' mode ( alt-n, I think. ).

Anyway, the possibilty arose of actual missions, with real time frames, and people went ga-ga over the idea!! Just imagine, they said...taking off in England and flying to the coast, 4 to 6 hours...just like in real life!! There was talk of 8 to 10 hour missions, with the high likliehood of no action...and pilots were chomping at the bit to do it. Now, there is realism!!

And there, my friends, is total stupidity...hehe. That is not what a sim is for, for crying out loud! If they wanted to fly the real thing, then they should have..I could not believe that anyone with a computer would ever entertain such an idea, unless they were being paid to do it.

Ummm...dry..dry...another round, whaddaya say???

posted 03-08- 02:11 AM               

-=BAB=- Gunner

posted 03-08- 10:42 AM               

Basically, if we could find a way to "see" the damn planes better, it wouldn't be as much of a problem. The only thing I really use any part of the HUD apparatus for is to see the planes.

Moe's problem with reading the gauges I empathize with. I can read'em great in the '51 and most Allied planes, but my unfamiliarity with all things Axis as far as cockpit gauges are concerened can be a problem. Basically I focus on airspeed and artificial horizon. Altitude? What the heck is that. I'm going to try and climb the most I can anyway, so who cares? They're also hard to read 'cause I'm running in 1024. Would probably look better and be easier to decipher in 8 x 6, but what the hell.

I think if we were able to "see" the planes a little better, we wouldn't need target box id's, and if we could read the gauges better in all planes, we wouldn't need any of the other functions.

I really like how in EAW (so much for that game being REALLY, REALLY, realistic...), you can see planes in the distance, and they are even discernable as to what color (i.e. good guy or bad guy) they are. "Oh, it's a faint brown spot in the distance, it's one of ours!" Or, "EEEeeek! It's a faint gray speck in the distance! Bad Guys! Bad Guys! Prepare for attack!"

I like realism as much as the next guy, but people didn't take off in WWII, and look back at the airfield right after takeoff, and not be able to see their wingmen. Period. Spyder and I were paying extremely close attention to that one night, and I mean it's like you're by yourself.

If we can't get some of this straightened out, and we try flying HUD-less without bad guys marked on the map, it'll be like a bunch of individual sorties that never find anything. You'll just fly around for a while, and you BETTER learn to read your fuel gauge (!), and then you'll land. Alright! Hoo-hah, never had so much with my clothes on!

I'm reading "Thunderbolt!" by Robert S. Johnson right now, and he talks about seeing enemy fighters miles and miles away. At one point he even says he saw bad guys 15 miles away. That might be a stretch, but I think it's apparent that in REALITY you could see a hell of a lot farther than we can see in the game.

HUD-on, HUD-off...they both have their good and bad points. I think if things were a little more normal in the way we "see" things in the game, we could actually try HUD-off with HUD-on type people, and it would be a really, really, good time. Even with the bad guys off the map. Great for bombers too.

But then we'd argue that the Allies had radar, so THEY'D get to use the map with planes shown on it, heh-heh.

posted 03-08- 11:28 AM               

Now...ahh...who was buying again?? Hey, Sparky!! You didn't happen to see my wallet, did ya???

posted 03-08- 02:10 PM               

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