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Rendsburger
Pilot
posted 01-02- 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rendsburger   Click Here to Email Rendsburger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iīm on the way to find out what causes the lot of CTDs to the one who host a game.
K2 and me are hosting lot of games and whe run into what K2 gave the name "every second mission crash".
So my question to all is,did it happened to you too? And what addons are you using?

Here is my install:
patch10,Nations2,PP6.1 do i use for online games

Rendsburger

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Pye
Pilot
posted 01-02- 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes it does happen to me, I've noticed that when it does happen it has been every second attempt. But that isn't always the case.

I've not hosted so many now like I used to, and find I have CTD, APP.exe error on trying to join games. I had done fresh install of hardrive and re-install but still get the same app crashing problem.


It would be good if we had some type of extensive error tracking or logging that we could turn on, refer to from the point of joining a game and starting the mission.

patch 1.5
patch 10
pp6.0 +pp6.1
DirectX v8.1
OpenGL

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MadCow
Pilot
posted 01-02- 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MadCow   Click Here to Email MadCow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thx Rends.

Yes this cdt problem is getting out of hand. Without fail I will cdt or lockup on the load screen or at game start EVERY OTHER game only so the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th etc..games are all fine for some reason but the ones in between are a guaranteed cdt or lockup UNLESS I exit all the way out of sdoe after each and every game and then rejoin the lobby to fly the next game. Doing this somehow seems to nip the cdt/lockup in the bud so to speak before it can recurr for the 2nd, 4th, 6th etc games. Weird.

My system spec: PIII 700, 384Meg SDRAM, GF3 Ti200 with 64Meg DDR 4ns RAM, Win98 SE, Dx8.0, D3D.

Game loaded as follows:
FS cd, Patch 1.5, Nation V2, PP6.0,PP6.1 and Patch 1.5.2.10.
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Rendsburger
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posted 01-03- 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rendsburger   Click Here to Email Rendsburger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seams that i made a big step forward.
I canīt tell much about the ctds in gamescreen (where u select missions and squads) because i flew a lot of missions alone online today, BUT i didnīt get any app.exe errors or hangups in the loaderscreen when i renamed the mission folder.Now only the basic missions appears and i flew them without trouble.
If i renamed the mission folder back i got the ctds back too even when i tried to fly only the basic missions.
So next thing will be to find out what is wrong with the user made missions.

Rendsburger

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Steffen
Pilot
posted 01-03- 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steffen   Click Here to Email Steffen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Rends,

I noticed the same you talking about, using SDOE offline.
With some user missions I CTD or got an APP.EXE error. Since I open the user missions with the mission editor from the patch 10 and save it, I got no CTD or APP.EXE error while flying with patch 10.

Steffen

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Pye
Pilot
posted 01-03- 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you notice me picking Box Standard mission if I hosted now . they always work! I think! well I lost 400 other online ones!!!

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Jerry+
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posted 01-03- 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry+   Click Here to Email Jerry+     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rends, I don't know if this will help in your bug search but I get more app.exe CTD's in OpenGL than in D3D, offline.

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Patie
Cadet
posted 01-04- 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Rends,

The last times I flew online a lot of ctd's occure like you said, not sure that it happend every 2nd mission do.
The 2nd time syndrome I noticed a couple of times when i was online with Pye. (not impliyng he's causing it, LOL )
but he noticed it first and it happend to all of us that where online then.

Ehm, during the Clash of the Eagles, I'm not sure, but I think it didn't happen, maybe someone else can confirm this !??
Maybe that is of help, because we used different loadouts and some other stuff I can't remember right now.

Cheers,
Patch1.5, NV2, PP6.0+PP6.1, GP2, patch10
DirectX 8.1, D3D

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Rendsburger
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posted 01-04- 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rendsburger   Click Here to Email Rendsburger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your posting and the one mail i got from WM confirm me that it must be the usermade missions. I wonīt say that the usermade missions are wrong, but who knows.
Werner mailed me that he used a clean install with the needed addons for CoE and only the CoE missions in it.
And he used short and easy msn names like this :
CoE_M2_8Player

Well i had lot of long msn names in my folder like:
N-quick dgfight (2) 109f V (2)spVb

So i think it might be the long mission names or special marks like " () == ".


I will go on testing and it would be nice to do this together with someone.

Rendsburger

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Sv
JAG
posted 01-04- 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have had problems with missions that I have created... some do not work at all... and it does not seem to be related to what aircraft are in the mission... but I hav enot tested allot.

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Rendsburger
Pilot
posted 01-04- 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rendsburger   Click Here to Email Rendsburger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Guys here is the solution!!!

I found a corrupted mission after 2 days of testing. Look in your Fighter Squadron\Media\Missions\Multiplayer directory for following mission:
Vipe_2 SupermarineSpitxv11 v 2 109g

Delete this mission!

the strange thing is that you donīt need to select or fly this mission in game.It will let you crash every second mission if it is only in the folder.

If you open this mission with notepad you find a lot of wrong placed text stuff between the msntargets.

I guess it is possible that more corrupted missions exsist.So if you have any trouble while online flying then move ALL missions out of this folder and test with the stock missions if all works fine then.

Rendsburger

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MadCow
Pilot
posted 01-10- 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MadCow   Click Here to Email MadCow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Rends. I deleted the above mission from my multiplayer dir but still get this wretched cdt every 2nd game only. It's very weird because I can fly in one mission fine and as I try to refly the same mission, the games cdt's on mission loading or at game start.

The only way now that I can guarantee not to cdt with every 2nd game is to back right out of sdoe to the desk top at the end of each mission and then fire up sdoe again and rejoin the lobby.

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Rendsburger
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posted 01-10- 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rendsburger   Click Here to Email Rendsburger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mooo,
i found another corrupt mission :
"spit14 2 v 2 109g6"
Look if you have this mission in your multiplayer folder and delete it!

there might be more corrupt mission out.Make a test and do this :
move your multiplayer folder out of the mission folder and try to fly the stock missions a few times. If it works OK,then you have another unknown corrupted mission in your multiplayer folder,if not ...

Rendsburger

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MadCow
Pilot
posted 01-10- 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MadCow   Click Here to Email MadCow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Rends,

I ran your test and moved my Multiplayer folder out of Missions and I actually flew 5 online missions without a single cdt until I then flew Lector's Ju88's mission which promptly crashed to desk top! I hear it's the actual mission itself that is corrupted.

I then flew another 4 std games online without cdts so I may well and truly have more corrupted missions in my multiplayer folder. Right now my multiplayer folder contains about 150 - 200 missions. I'm gonna add them back to the 'std' multiplayer folder one at a time and fly them online til I find out which ones are corrupted and then turf them out for good.

Mooooooooooooooooooooo

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