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gt Pilot	posted 11-20- 01:32 PM Mhhhm another question here: I'm reading alot of books concering the civil war in Spain. Now a new idea comes into my mind....what if I would change the names on the Rhineland map and create a new terrain (let's say 'Spain') ...plus a couple of skins. What you guy's think about this? Please let me know cause I've already a couple of skins sitting on my HD for this. cheers gt ------------------ Please visit: GT's HANGAR Bombing the Reich "You'll have to put her down Baz, we're badly on fire." Dedicated to the memory of Squadron Leader Ian Bazalgette VC DFC. IP: Logged
Pierre Radiateur Pilot	posted 11-20- 02:20 PM Well... we have the I16, Gustavo was working on a 109D, the He111 is in the works... seems like a good plan IP: Logged
Sturm Spieler Pilot	posted 11-20- 03:01 PM Guys, someone MUST make an ARADO Ar 68 Bi-plane or a HE-51!! Especially the latter, I have designed a series of missions on the formative years of the Luftwaffe. I would love to have the HE-51. As I recall those planes played a crucial part in the early part of the Spanish Civil War. Sturm Spieler IP: Logged
Diego Lozano Pilot	posted 11-20- 09:13 PM GT, I'm behind you 100%. Maybe we can get some use out of those fakes we made a while back. Try this link for some massive amounts of plane info http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/SpainAir.htm IP: Logged
Gustavo Pilot	posted 11-21- 10:17 AM Good idea gt. Were not you working in a terrain of Greece?........ That pass with that? ------------------ I./JG 27 Alle Messerschmitt bf109 IP: Logged
gt Pilot	posted 11-21- 11:52 AM I'm fast............zooooommmm Here's the list: Airfields: Campo de aviación Villanueva Campo de aviación Sertal Campo de aviación Chiqua Campo de aviación Casatejada Pista de aterrizaje Pedras Pista de aterrizaje San Miguel Campo de aviación Santa Julia Campo de aviación Duero Pista de aterrizaje Júcar Towns: Villanueva Sertal Guadalajara Toledo Casatejada Tarancón San Miguel Ciudad Real Mérida Júcar Aircraft factory, ball bearing, powerplant, etc.: Fábrica de tractores Fábrica Fábrica química Jefatura Edificio para la electricidad Refinería Cárcel Dam: Presa de San Miguel V1 Site: Posición secreta here's the first pic NOW PLEASE DOES THIS MAKE SENSE IN SPANISH??????????? HELP CAUSE I'M JUST GUESING HERE Also: Please send to me every single civil-war skin that you ever made...downloaded...etc. etc. This is going to be cool gt IP: Logged
Whirlwind Pilot	posted 11-21- 01:02 PM Before you get too excited over using the He-111H (the one that was in the BoB and onwards), it was the He-111B-1 and later that had the glazed nose and stepped windscreen that faught in the Spanish Civil War. The last stepped windscreen version was the He-111G serie if I recall. I was amazed to see that myself. You need to rename some of the internal data in the 'spain' fake map or SDOE will get confuseded. IP: Logged
gt Pilot	posted 11-22- 07:21 AM bump IP: Logged
Gustavo Pilot	posted 11-22- 10:17 AM Wonderful gt....... FINALLY SOMETHING IN SPANISH LANGUAGE Count with I crumb for what you need. Won't the famous Guernica be? ------------------ I./JG 27 Alle Messerschmitt bf109 IP: Logged
Diego Lozano Pilot	posted 11-22- 10:57 AM That all looks very good GT. The only thing I would change is the name of the "Edificio para la electricidad" to Planta de electricidad. You know, I'm not even sure that Planta isnt just a slang word we use here in California...kinda like marketa for market Hey, BTW, are you going to retexture it too? That would be sweet. IP: Logged
Gustavo Pilot	posted 11-22- 02:11 PM quote: Originally posted by Diego Lozano: Hey, BTW, are you going to retexture it too? That would be sweet. Yo quiero creer que si Diego ------------------ I./JG 27 Alle Messerschmitt bf109 IP: Logged
Saeta Cadet	posted 11-22- 03:34 PM Im very happy with this proyect. Diego, es mas correcto "Central Eléctrica" que "Planta de electricidad". Seria bonito repintar el terreno: una brillante luz, un mar azul, un bosque mediterraneo...¡me gustaria saber hacerlo yo! Gustavo, ¡gracias por todos tus nuevos aviones, son fantasticos! IP: Logged
Tab Cadet	posted 11-22- 07:09 PM Guernica...necessita el mar...azul brillante terra..verde, muy verde electrica central gt..mucho gusto.tu ud. el rae pardone... yo hablamo un porquito y muy mal Si..uno mas! ------------------ OK...but just ONE more... IP: Logged
Gustavo Pilot	posted 11-23- 01:44 PM Saeta, me alegro que te gusten mis aviones. ¿De donde eres, parece que dominas el español? ------------------ I./JG 27 Alle Messerschmitt bf109 IP: Logged
Gustavo Pilot	posted 11-23- 01:46 PM Saeta, me alegra que te gusten mis aviones. ¿De donde eres, parece que dominas el español? ------------------ I./JG 27 Alle Messerschmitt bf109 IP: Logged
Wing Chaps Pilot	posted 11-23- 06:43 PM You guys...! If y'all ever get this here thang dun, y'all leave a note in English, so's us rednecks can check it out! I gotta go clean mah gun. ------------------ V/R, Chaps IP: Logged
Saeta Cadet	posted 11-24- 02:12 PM Hola Gustavo, me llamo Alfonso Sánchez, te he escrito alguna vez (Alf) soy de Madrid. ------------------ IP: Logged
Diego Lozano Pilot	posted 11-24- 02:25 PM Hola Alfonso! Si, creo que eso sera mas correcto Tome vacaciones en Loret de Mar en la Costa del Sol. Que bonito pais es Espana IP: Logged
Dance Pilot	posted 11-24- 03:23 PM I agree with Sturm, gotta have a He 51, plus the the early He 111, longer fuse, higher fin etc, plus I always wanted to put that Legion Condor 'Scottie' Skin on one, maybe bottom of the wish list, but how has the 111 been missed out. ;( IP: Logged
Hentzau Pilot	posted 11-25- 03:28 AM You guys are making me want to get Luftwaffe Commander out again. IP: Logged
gt Pilot	posted 11-27- 07:49 AM Sorry guy's I don't have the time to do a re-texture of the whole terrain...so this will be just a 'fake' terrain. Bu if someone is willing to do this...well you're welcome! Other things: Aircraft that saw action and will be available as separate airplanes on my web-site in the near future: - Do17 - Arado AR95W (a new one )..with floats - Storch - BF109E - Ju87 (I know we have the G model..but anyway) - I16 - I15 (a new one ...but not shure...still lot to do) - Fiat CR42 (the italian-fake) - Fiat Br20 (the italian-fake) - Fiat G.50 (the italian-fake) ...and missions tons of missions and of course every mentioned plane will be separate (so no troubles with your original ones) with an apropriate skin I know that at the moment we're not planing to include spain in nations3 (werner winkwink*), so we gona have primary Italian, German and Russian pilots fighting against each other. PS: Hey Hentzau ....yes I've that game too ...it's rubish from the simers point of view, but the whole campaign atmosphere is still verry nice ...at least. gona post a couple of images asap. ...please remember FS:SDOE is a nice hobby, but it has to make fun primary and so the whole 'Civil-War-Campaign' will be based upon FUN. cheers gt IP: Logged
Gustavo Pilot	posted 11-27- 08:36 AM False terrain?....... ahead gt, can you make it .............. leave some to fly those British bombardiers...... you take a photoshop and hands to the work ¿Do you have some news of the state of the work of Razer in the Stirling? ------------------ I./JG 27 Alle Messerschmitt bf109 IP: Logged
gt Pilot	posted 11-27- 09:00 AM No sorry gustavo I don't have the time I know that you're involved with the Tobruk terrain but maybe you've a little bit of time for Spain?? (just kidding). Just take a look to all of those planes for Spain (Arado, Ju, Do17, etc. etc.) they all need at least a new skin.....mhhhhm so the time for a new terrain is limited here... any other takers?? salud cameradas IP: Logged
gt Pilot	posted 11-28- 08:24 AM ...sorry this idea (Spanish Civil War) doesn't let me sleep. I've even received a couple of e-mails (..from Spain ). Statings where from: 1. 'ok we can live with a Rhineland fake' 2. 'ohhh common please create a new terrain for spain otherwise its not interesting enough...' At the moment I'm skinning the planes and onestly this looks like enough work for me at the moment. Creating a completely new terrain is beyond my know-how, that's for shure! So my question here can you guys life without a new terrain? If so ...well that's ok for me...if not, well we need a terrain-guru here Please let me know folks, cause this is going to get a big job for a lonely husband Opinions, ideas, etc. are welcome!!! cheers gt IP: Logged
Sturm Spieler Pilot	posted 11-28- 11:21 AM GT, here's my two cents...I was born in Sevilla and was raised in Madrid, till 1979 when I moved to the states. My grandmother, who lived through the Spanish Civil War as a little girl, has amazing war stories. She was one of many who suffered because, from village to village, the sides changed many times. There was much retaliation. SO...this project would mean much to me!! We spaniards are very proud of our country,(like those who are proud of England, Germany, etc.), and I really think you should not use rhineland as a fake terrain, unless absolutely necessary. Spain is a unique country. Some parts are very dry with Cork trees and Olive trees, some parts barren and rocky, some parts, like Ireland! The scenery changes drastically for such a small space. -Joe', para ver los torremolinos de La Mancha en 'este juego!!!!!!- Their should be a Spanish terrain. As a spaniard, I tell you that it would be so awesome!! I miss my country soooo much. Please, lets be patient!!! Sturm Spieler IP: Logged
Rendsburger Pilot	posted 11-28- 12:40 PM Sturmspieler, let me tell you something about creating terrains. First,creating isn´t that easy and i know only 3 guys who can do it at the moment and thats WTG,Nat and me. Next, it´s not a one man show, you need at least 2people, one for the technical part and one for the creative part It´s great if you have a painterguru like Diego involved Creating terrains is sometimes a very stupid work and i guess not so interesting for the most as planebuilding is. It takes also a long time before something is finished. So be happy if someone want to create Spain out of the rhineland terrain. Maybe you find someone to paint a new texture and create more spain looking buildings. I know that there is a windmill for the Somme terrain as example wich can be used in Spain also. I would be lucky if someone want to be involved in terraincreating too. Rendsburger IP: Logged
Sturm Spieler Pilot	posted 11-28- 05:37 PM I know...I know...its very hard..given that I am only a player not a creater, I feel wierd giving my opinion, but just my thoughts...I wish I did have the knowhow, cause I have tons of Ideas!! You "Creaters" are the very best...I kiss you on the feet many times and wish you have many camels and wives. Sturm IP: Logged

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