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Gustavo
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posted 10-23- 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gustavo   Click Here to Email Gustavo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is already very advanced. In less than one month I will be presenting the version beta 1.3


One of the wonderful squadrons that GT sent me


The excellent British bombs that Jeeves sent me


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Jeeves
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posted 10-23- 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You mean the bombs are actually working somewhere? LOL

She looks great Gustavo....I am looking forward to this one-- the more heavies we have, the better!

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Vahnatai
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posted 10-24- 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vahnatai   Click Here to Email Vahnatai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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gt
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posted 10-24- 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gt   Click Here to Email gt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very promising...to say the least
Now let's start talking about the Halifax


Thank you Gustavo! Thx a lot!

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SteveTheDrummer
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posted 10-24- 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveTheDrummer   Click Here to Email SteveTheDrummer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks WICKED Gustavo!
can´t wait!

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li'l bastard
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posted 10-24- 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for li'l bastard   Click Here to Email li'l bastard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey gus, u think it's possible to make the engine cowls and wheels rounder?
Thanks and keep up the good work!

li'l b

Gustavo, pensi che puoi arrotondare i motori e le ruote?
Grazie e continua così!!!!

li'l b

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Werner Molders
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posted 10-24- 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks fantastic Gustavo! Especially the cockpit framing, it looks very sharp.

I always thought the Lanc was the biggest of the RAF heavies... guess not. What are the dimensions (length & wingspan) of the Lancaster versus the Stirling?

Werner

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Pierre Radiateur
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posted 10-24- 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre Radiateur   Click Here to Email Pierre Radiateur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Stirling looks good

Have to agree on the motors though...they are 8 sided tubes...if you can spare the polygons, 12 sided looks better

On the size front....the Stirling was TALL!!!!! That was one major problem...especially when bombing them up...

Wingspan was LESS than the Lanc. They set the design parameters for the plane at a maximum wingspan of 100 feet, so it would fit in existing hangars. As a result, the Stirling got shorter wings than it needed. This resulted in it having a limited maximum ceiling height.

The squadron pic gives a good impression of how tall these planes were!!!!

p.s. This has got me thinking....about a certain 4 engine beast on hold in my project pile...

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Razer
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posted 10-24- 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Razer   Click Here to Email Razer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gustavo, your really turning into a model master.

I have a few things, instead of making the engines with more sides just make the cowling 3D and add an real engine in the cowling.

You know, I could map the fuse and tail and have it back to you in a day. (might even be able to fix your shadow.)

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Elric
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posted 10-24- 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elric   Click Here to Email Elric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gustavo,

Did I ever send you my ac3d stirling fuselage and wings? or my 3 plan views? I know that I definately didn't scan in the cockpit drawings from the pilot's book. I will hook up my scanner and do that.

What is your email address?

BTW, the stirling looks lovely...

Elric

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last seen fragging noobs on DoD, sad but true.

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gt
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posted 10-24- 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gt   Click Here to Email gt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG you guy's are right ...compared to the Lanc the Stirling looks like a giant

Gustavo porfavor el Stirling esta mucho too big please resize this aeroplano un poquito

....LOL now if someone could translate that

thx
gt

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Mad123_uk
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posted 10-24- 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mad123_uk   Click Here to Email Mad123_uk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok so am a newbie here, but not at ww2 and modding sims.
The scale here is just about right, believe it or not this was how big the stirling was, with the wingspan of under 100ft, this gave it a maxiumum service ceiling of around 12,000ft!
S! mad

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Gustavo
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posted 10-24- 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gustavo   Click Here to Email Gustavo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to all for the enthusiasm

GT, do you say that it is too big......? See the image under and take out the measure in percentage of both airplanes. The half Lanc long 21,18 meters, and the Stirling 26,5 meters; but of 5 meters but long.
The wings of the Stirling mediate 30,2 meters, and those of the Lanc 31,09 meters, that is to say, almost 1 meter but you cut those of the Stir.
The height of the Lanc, 6,10 meters, that of the Stir, 6,93 meters. I believe that it is not outside of measure this model
I believe that with this I also responded the question of Werner.

Elric: I never received their model 3D, if he/she wants sends it to gusal_pad@sinectis.com.ar

Jeeves: If, those they are their bombs...... they are very good.

Razer: I should still finish several things of the pattern....... but then it will be necessary that somebody as you finishes it and improve in several things, I eat for example, to locate the textures in the main body, the shades, to round the motors, etc. once I have list the beta 1.3, it will be in their hands and that of all those that want to participate.

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Gustavo
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posted 10-25- 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gustavo   Click Here to Email Gustavo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to the calculations that I made comparing measures in OP, my Stirlin is exact in relation to the Lanc............. is a giant, if, it seems that it was this way in the reality. See and compare the size of the men in connection with each airplane in these pictures.
See the one that is exactly under the prow of the Stirling...... or it is a midget, or, the Stirling is a giant

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gt
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posted 10-25- 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gt   Click Here to Email gt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alright guy's ...checked my books.
Gustavo you're right, compared to the Lanc the Stirling is a giant and the size is, compared to the Lanc, correct.
What made me unshure was the last picture...but ahhh probably it was quite late ...once again sorry for the stress here.

Can't wait for this plane anyway...hehehe

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Werner Molders
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posted 10-25- 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werner Molders   Click Here to Email Werner Molders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the information Gustavo, I've long been curious how exact our planes were proportional to each other, but obviously we're in good hands when people like you put this kind of research time into your projects.

Muchas gracias, Gustavo!

Werner

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Pierre Radiateur
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posted 10-26- 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre Radiateur   Click Here to Email Pierre Radiateur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the only bit I worried about was the wingspan, but that overhead shot shows it nicely. The Stirling has less wingspan than the Lanc

And as Gustavo has sown with those pics, the Stirling was a MONSTER!

If they had slapped on the wings from the Sunderland instead of cropping them off, they would have got a decent bomber. Oh...and some more powerful motors wouldn't have gone amiss either ... and a bigger bomb-bay....

er.....

o.k. the Lanc was a much better bomber...

but Gustavo has done a good job on the Stirling

p.s. How is the interior coming along? This was the biggest headache I got onthe B24. The panel was a nightmare

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Gustavo
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posted 10-27- 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gustavo   Click Here to Email Gustavo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Werner Molders:
Thanks for the information Gustavo, I've long been curious how exact our planes were proportional to each other, but obviously we're in good hands when people like you put this kind of research time into your projects.

Muchas gracias, Gustavo!


Werner


Thanks to you Werner for their concepts. It is a pride for my to belong to this community, where it reigns the respect, the cordiality and the cooperation....... sew that regrettably have gotten lost in this world.
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Gracias a usted Werner por sus conceptos. Es un orgullo para mi pertenecer a esta comunidad, donde reina el respeto, la cordialidad y la cooperación.......cosas que lamentablemente se han perdido en este mundo.


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