posted 10-02- 02:40 PM               

It's NOT optimized to work in patch 1.5.2.9, but it IS optimized to work in patch 1.5.2.9a, or 1.5.2.10, whatever it turns out to be. So it'll work better for now in v1.5.

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posted 10-04- 07:29 PM               

Unfortunately, since any FM changes I do can only be tested using my own system, you'll inevitably end up with what "feels good" to me, and the current version feels pretty good on my rig. If any of the FM gurus want to play around with it, let me know, but she wasn't called the Ensign Eliminator for nothing I have one last idea I can try before the Base Pack gets put together, but my personal minimum is that the plane must be able to spin, and must demonstrate enough torque that you have to learn to counter it. If I make it too "docile," we'll lose those characteristics and it won't be a Corsair any more IMO.

If you use the tailhook to land on the CV, you will end up "tail high" because of the way Mace's carrier gear works. Just retract the hook after you stop and you'll be able to taxi normally. You can try landing without the hook, but you'll need to be quick on the brakes.

My philosophy on this plane has always been that it was a "difficult" plane in real life, and that if you could just jump into it and takeoff, dogfight Zeros, kill em, and then land safely on the first try, that I didn't do a very good job of modeling it. You'll need to have a gentle hand on the stick, and learn the proper "touch" on the rudder, to fly it well.

But I want guys to enjoy it too. If it's "too hard," then I'll fix it, but give it some practice, and see how it goes. Maybe when I convert the F4U-1D to the new model, I can make that one more stable, and then guys can pick their poison.

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posted 10-05- 06:39 AM               

Then the guy taxi'd past after landing, fighting to hold her straight, while peering round to try and see where he was going.

posted 10-05- 11:23 AM               

My problem with Jedi's Corsair is in the air. It is so much more sensitive than any other fighter in the game. I also have a MS Precision Pro but all the sliders are down as far as they go plus I have CTFJ set at 85 for X and Y axis. Tight turns are almost impossible to hold. If this is the way they really handled then either all the other fighters in SDOE are dumbed down or the Corsair was far and away the most difficult plane to handle in WWII, which I find hard to believe.

I'm sure that given time I could adjust but what's the point? There are dozens of other fighters to choose from, including several iterations of the F4U which I have no problems with, and which I can use with the .9 patch.

Sorry if I am complaining too much. The Corsair is my favorite fighter so I'm probably over reacting.

posted 10-05- 01:48 PM               

Jedi already knows this, but the F4U is my all time favorite WWII plane as well.

I understand your high hopes/stand for it because it is our favorite plane.

Jedi is correct that you do need alooooot of practice with it as I have been doing every night since I got it, but to be fair it does seem more touchy in comparison to the other sdoe a/c.

I can't hold it in a turn consistently yet. I will keep trying.

Jedi, is there any "simple" fm changes you could make to it and send to me for a quick test to make sure it still spins but also holds a turn better?

posted 10-05- 09:11 PM               

Given that most of the other SDOE planes can be taken off without even using the rudder, I'm hesitant to just make it "like all the rest of 'em."

About all I can offer is to see how "stable" I can make it on my system, yet still spin. However, we're pretty much AT that point already, since we've been through this once before. If anyone wants to tweak it in OPS, and send me what you come up with, you're certainly welcome to do that. If you can get it to work on your system and it still works on my system, I'll change it for the final version. If not, I'll see about making the F4U-1D more docile and leave the -1A as is.

The "twitchiness" lies in the airAdvantage and airMax properties of the horizontal stabilizers. Lowering those values will make the airplane pitch up slower. This will do two things: the plane will be less likely to "snap roll" (and spin) and the plane will eventually reach a point at low speed where, with maximum power, you can not physically generate enough G to slow yourself down with drag. The plane will then reach an "equilibrium" speed where you're pulling as hard as you can, but you neither turn tighter nor slow down. Pretty unrealistic, but several other SDOE planes will do this as well.

So that's where we are. There's really no way I can make it work better on someone else's system if its working great on mine. I simply won't know when I've "succeeded."

posted 10-06- 10:13 AM               

You guys ARE flying plain old v1.5 of the sim, right?

If you're flying 1.5.2.9, there's a very good reason why it's "squirrelly"--you're lugging around an extra engine and a bunch of extra weight (on the tail, no less) from the catapult system that will not "auto-detach" in v1.5.2.9. In fact, it won't detach at all, so if you're even able to keep the plane in the air in 1.5.2.9, you're a better pilot than I am

I CAN fix that one particular problem, but I left it alone since it will work fine in the next version of the patch. If you're not flying standard v1.5, try doing that and let me know what it flies like. If the next patch is going to be delayed for some reason, I can release another beta with that one thing fixed. If you're flying the .9a test patch, then this is not the problem and it's just too sensitive.

It IS a "joystick/controller" issue tho. If I set my joystick to full sensitivity, the plane is almost unflyable, and if I set it to very low sensitivity, it flies much like the one in Warbirds (which was the target I was shooting for). So the key is to be able to find a range of sensitivity adjustment that exists on my system and "most" other folks as well, and then tweak the plane into that range.

One thing to check: how many G's are you pulling when the plane becomes "unflyable," and at what speed. If you're "snatching" to 8 or 9 Gs, that's an accelerated stall, and the plane will probably roll on you. If you're commanding 5 or 6 Gs at 180 mph, it's going to do the same thing. Check to see how quickly the plane is developing "high G's," because maybe I can get it to just "react slower." I don't claim that the real Hawg would flip over in an accelerated stall, but it wouldn't just continue to turn smoothly, and the SDOE FM doesn't really produce what I would consider to be a "real" stall, accelerated or otherwise. It's pretty much just a "mush" if you're level, and a "snap roll" if you're turning.

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posted 10-06- 04:17 PM               

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posted 10-06- 05:32 PM               

I thought I'd use the Boyington skin on the D-model, the Marine's Dream on the birdcage, and the one you did for the -4 as well.

posted 10-07- 10:12 AM               

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posted 10-07- 01:33 PM               

So, do those Navy guys need those arrows to know which way is up and which way is forward, or are they for packing the plane in a box?

posted 10-07- 07:37 PM               

By the way it has 2 sets of wheels, It comes in handy for me this is what makes it possible to set this bird down.

posted 10-09- 04:42 PM               

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